Blood Moon prediction.

Armoured · Oct 7, 2015

parousia70 said:
Matthew 27:25
25 And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.”

You know even the Vatican doesn't believe in this blood libel stuff anymore, right?

parousia70 · Oct 7, 2015

Armoured said:
You know even the Vatican doesn't believe in this blood libel stuff anymore, right?

yep.
Since they understand and subscribe to orthodox, Biblical preterism, why would they?

It's the hyper futurists that have the credibility and consistency problem with claiming the blood guilt has already been atoned for.

mmksparbud · Oct 7, 2015

parousia70 said:
Matthew 27:25
25 And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.”

Yep--that's what they said. What I don't understand is what power that gives anyone else to wipe them out?? They did not kill Jesus--they called for His death, only the Romans could execute. Had Jesus been accepted by them as the Messiah---He still would have had to die--that is what He came to do, there was no escaping it. No Jew, no Roman killed Jesus--He gave His life

(Joh 10:17) Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
(Joh 10:18) No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

You and I killed Jesus--your mother, my mother, your grandchild, everyone since Adam and Eve and everyone born after us--killed Him. We all have "blood guilt".

Armoured · Oct 7, 2015

parousia70 said:
yep.
Since they understand and subscribe to orthodox, Biblical preterism, why would they?

It's the hyper futurists that have the credibility and consistency problem with claiming the blood guilt has already been atoned for.

Um... I guess your Catholic tag confused me?

keras · Oct 7, 2015

Jipsah said:
Really? OK, I'll bite. What do you reckon thermite is made of, and how much of the moon's surface is made of it? And I'd be interested in seeing how your imaginary blast of superheated plasma iss going to set off a "thermite reaction" when one of the necessary ingredients of a "thermite reaction" (other than some thermite, of course) is oxygen, which is notably lacking on the moon.

May I indulge in scoffing your ignorance? Call yourself an engineer and talk as though you know chemistry?
Why didn't you actually ascertain what the Lunar regolith [dust] actually consists of?
Here are the facts; SiO2=42%, CaO=11%, Al203=20%, FeO=12%, plus 8 other elements, all except one are combined with Oxygen. Therefore Oxygen is in fact the most common element on the moon.

Then you again display your chronic lack of knowledge and research, saying the sun doesn't, can't, eject hot hydrogen plasma.
A simple google search throws that notion out the window.

Just because some over enthusiastic Bible studiers have 'jumped the gun' and made themselves look stupid, in no way means what they saw in Bible prophecy won't take place. In fact if it doesn't, then the Bible is wrong and we might all throw it into the recycle bin. Make egg trays out of it!
The rest of your foolish post #194, is beneath comment.

Armoured · Oct 7, 2015

keras said:
May I indulge in scoffing your ignorance? Call yourself an engineer and talk as though you know chemistry?
Why didn't you actually ascertain what the Lunar regolith [dust] actually consists of?
Here are the facts; SiO2=42%, CaO=11%, Al203=20%, FeO=12%, plus 8 other elements, all except one are combined with Oxygen. Therefore Oxygen is in fact the most common element on the moon.

Then you again display your chronic lack of knowledge and research, saying the sun doesn't, can't, eject hot hydrogen plasma.
A simple google search throws that notion out the window.

Just because some over enthusiastic Bible studiers have 'jumped the gun' and made themselves look stupid, in no way means what they saw in Bible prophecy won't take place. In fact if it doesn't, then the Bible is wrong and we might all throw it into the recycle bin. Make egg trays out of it!
The rest of your foolish post #194, is beneath comment.

Combustion requires free oxygen, generally. Oxygen in a compound doesn't burn. Otherwise water would make fires worse.

parousia70 · Oct 7, 2015

mmksparbud said:
Yep--that's what they said. What I don't understand is what power that gives anyone else to wipe them out??

Matthew 21:33-41
33 “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”....

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking of them.

dougangel · Oct 7, 2015

parousia70 said:
Matthew 21:33-41
33 “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”....

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking of them.

I don't know how anyone can say there wasn't a Judgement put on Israel. There is so much scripture about it. That's what the donkey's are about in the triumphal entry to Jerusalem
Deuteronomy 21New King James Version (NKJV)

The Law Concerning Unsolved Murder
21 “If anyone is found slain, lying in the field in the land which the Lord your God is giving you to possess, and it is not known who killed him, 2 then your elders and your judges shall go out and measure the distance from the slain man to the surrounding cities. 3 And it shall be that the elders of the city nearest to the slain man will take a heifer which has not been worked and which has not pulled with a yoke. 4 The elders of that city shall bring the heifer down to a valley with flowing water, which is neither plowed nor sown, and they shall break the heifer’s neck there in the valley. 5 Then the priests, the sons of Levi, shall come near, for the Lord your God has chosen them to minister to Him and to bless in the name of the Lord; by their word every controversy and every assault shall be settled. 6 And all the elders of that city nearest to the slain man shall wash their hands over the heifer whose neck was broken in the valley. 7 Then they shall answer and say, ‘Our hands have not shed this blood, nor have our eyes seen it. 8 Provide atonement, O Lord, for Your people Israel, whom You have redeemed, and do not lay innocent blood to the charge of Your people Israel.’ And atonement shall be provided on their behalf for the blood. 9 So you shall put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you when you do what is right in the sight of the Lord.

The Triumphal Entry. Luke 19

28 When He had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. 29 And it came to pass, when He drew near to Bethphage[c] and Bethany, at the mountain called Olivet, that He sent two of His disciples, 30 saying, “Go into the village opposite you, where as you enter you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever sat. Loose it and bring it here. 31 And if anyone asks you, ‘Why are you loosing it?’ thus you shall say to him, ‘Because the Lord has need of it.’”

32 So those who were sent went their way and found it just as He had said to them. 33 But as they were loosing the colt, the owners of it said to them, “Why are you loosing the colt?”

34 And they said, “The Lord has need of him.” 35 Then they brought him to Jesus. And they threw their own clothes on the colt, and they set Jesus on him. 36 And as He went, many spread their clothes on the road.

37 Then, as He was now drawing near the descent of the Mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works they had seen, 38 saying:

“ ‘Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!’[d]
Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”

39 And some of the Pharisees called to Him from the crowd, “Teacher, rebuke Your disciples.”

40 But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out.”
The teachers and leaders are mocking
Because it was written and prophesied Jesus says something must cry out.

Zechariah 9:9 “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.

Taking a colt that had never been ridden. Jesus was evoking, completing and fulfilling many of the old testament scriptures. We must realize too that Jesus was still under the OT Law till his death. He was offering the elders of Israel and Jerusalem a chance to redeem themselves. To abstain themselves of innocent blood if someone had just know the scriptures

Jesus Weeps over Jerusalem

Luke 19

41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

mmksparbud · Oct 7, 2015

parousia70 said:
Matthew 21:33-41
33 “Hear another parable: There was a certain landowner who planted a vineyard and set a hedge around it, dug a winepress in it and built a tower. And he leased it to vinedressers and went into a far country. 34 Now when vintage-time drew near, he sent his servants to the vinedressers, that they might receive its fruit. 35 And the vinedressers took his servants, beat one, killed one, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first, and they did likewise to them. 37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and cast him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vinedressers?”

41 They said to Him, “He will destroy those wicked men miserably, and lease his vineyard to other vinedressers who will render to him the fruits in their seasons.”....

45 Now when the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking of them.

Yes, He was talking to the chief priests and Pharisees---to them---not to Joe Blow down the alley who wants to beat and kill Jews today or tomorrow.

dougangel · Oct 7, 2015

mmksparbud said:
Yes, He was talking to the chief priests and Pharisees---to them---not to Joe Blow down the alley who wants to beat and kill Jews today or tomorrow.

Deuteronomy 28New King James Version (NKJV)

47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. 51 And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you.

52 “They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the Lord your God has given you. 53 You shall eat the fruit of your own body, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you. 54 The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[a]to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter, 57 her placenta which comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of everything in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates.

58 “If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE LORD YOUR GOD,

If you don't believe in the New Covenant. There is judgement on you.
Israel went in to desolation as a Nation tell 1947.
When you realise when Deuteronomy 28 was written. It's quite an amazing piece of scripture.

The question is ? Is Mathew 24 a repeating prophecy. Is Israel going to go into desolation again ?

parousia70 · Oct 7, 2015

dougangel said:
I don't know how anyone can say there wasn't a Judgement put on Israel.

Agreed.
I likewise don't know how anyone can say the mechanism of the delivery OF that judgement was NOT "the coming of the Lord of the Vineyard, the Chief cornerstone, to destroy those wicked men and grind them to powder" (Matt 21)

Jipsah · Oct 7, 2015

keras said:
May I indulge in scoffing your ignorance?

You can try, but you probably won't get very far. <Laugh>

Call yourself an engineer

The state of Tennessee called me one for a long time, but it may be that I had them fooled, you reckon?

and talk as though you know chemistry?

Not a chemical engineer, nor did I say I was. Last chemistry I was forced to do was in college, back in the Dark Ages. I don't think it's changed much since then, though.

Why didn't you actually ascertain what the Lunar regolith [dust] actually consists of?
Here are the facts; SiO2=42%, CaO=11%, Al203=20%, FeO=12%, plus 8 other elements, all except one are combined with Oxygen.

Which of those do you reckon would make a good oxidizer for your thermite reaction? The SiO2 might work in you put sufficient quantity of it near enough to a decent fuel (Al2O3 might serve if you stuck 'em together just right.) Then again, it probably wouldn't, and if it did, you'd have localized reactions where oxidizers and fuels happened to be in the right places to make sparklers for a bit. That's assuming your mythical plasma blast from your mythical CME heats 'em up enough. Maybe you can arrange for some magnesium to be handy so it lights up from the plasma and then sets off your "thermite".

Or maybe not. <Laugh> Maybe you ought to stick to misreading Old Testament prophecies.

Therefore Oxygen is in fact the most common element on the moon.

It's also the most common element in the oceans, as well. Good luck getting it to fuel a "thermite reaction" there. Althought if does create some lovely oxides, like Fe2O3, that will make first rate thermite if you're so inclined.

Then you again display your chronic lack of knowledge and research, saying the sun doesn't, can't, eject hot hydrogen plasma.

Of course it ejects hydrogen plasma. And short of going nova, is that plasma dense enough or hot enough to set off a "thermite reaction"on the moon, or burn up the earth? No. The whole attachment to the idea of a Magic CME that fulfills lots of prophecies is just stuff y'all made up because for some reason you feel the need to try and explain stuff in prophecy in a "scientific" sounding form. Sorry, but that's just weird, especially when you run off the edge of the actual science and start embroidering.

How about just saying "God could do all that." and let it go? We'd all agree that, yeah, God can, and will if He so desires. The pseudo-scientific "explanation" is goofy.

Just because some over enthusiastic Bible studiers have 'jumped the gun' and made themselves look stupid, in no way means what they saw in Bible prophecy won't take place.
In fact if it doesn't, then the Bible is wrong and we might all throw it into the recycle bin.

Really? Suit yourself, then. For my part, I think all I really need to know from the Bible is contained in the New Testament. I wasn't saved by the prophets, or by believing, (or not) in magic CMEs or flaming moons. I was saved by Jesus Christ. Everything of eternal importance was fulfilled by His coming, His death, and His resurrection. All that remains is the Ultimate Triumph of His return. The Old Testament is history, important only insofar as it points toward our Lord Christ. St. Paul said "...I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified." I reckon there's a lesson there for all of us.

The rest of your foolish post #194, is beneath comment.

Take it to heart all the same.[/QUOTE]

Handmaid for Jesus · Nov 14, 2015

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Handmaid for Jesus · Nov 14, 2015

Can we look at events that have happened since the September blood moon happened. I will start it by looking at the blood moon that happened out of schedule on October 30.

Armoured · Nov 14, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
Can we look at events that have happened since the September blood moon happened. I will start it by looking at the blood moon that happened out of schedule on October 31.

Here we go. It's retroactive prophecy season!

zippy2 · Nov 14, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
Can we look at events that have happened since the September blood moon happened. I will start it by looking at the blood moon that happened out of schedule on October 30.

I think I understand.

com7fy8 · Nov 14, 2015

If you see your world to be what you get on your TV screen, then possibly you could suppose the world has been turned upside-down.

zippy2 · Nov 14, 2015

com7fy8 said:
If you see your world to be what you get on your TV screen, then possibly you could suppose the world has been turned upside-down.

You don't think it has?

com7fy8 · Nov 14, 2015

com7fy8 said:
If you see your world to be what you get on your TV screen, then possibly you could suppose the world has been turned upside-down.

zippy2 said:
You don't think it has?

no, Zippy. I think of how the world could have been when Genghis Khan came riding into European villages and slaughtered everyone and took everything. And the peoples on the North American continent were invaded and slaughtered by United States military people, and their lands were taken from them. And millions were killed in Europe by the bubonic plague.

Even that was not the whole world turning upside down.

In certain areas things were turned upside down, but not the whole world, like that. But TV can make it look as though some item represents the whole world. Plus, a lot of things have been made to look a certain way, but it never has been that way, really. So, when things suddenly seem to change a lot . . . it is only things coming out in the open.

For example, we can be tricked into supposing our money system is secure and can be made secure; when this is disproven, what is true has come out in the open. When 9/11 happened in America, there were people who did not feel their world turned upside-down, but they realized they needed to see how nothing is permanent, and they needed to appreciate the most important things, like relationships.

How about you?

Handmaid for Jesus · Nov 14, 2015

Here is another.

Hundreds killed in Hajj stampede on Sept 24, 2015. I think that is significant.Death toll 1,100. OK everybody jump in at the same time with what you have observed. Shake up your memory.

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