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two sticks of dynamite waiting for a spark.

Is this the Catholic Church teachings or your own opinion ? Someone can easily say that about a monk, nun, or priest.

Please, let us be understanding. You can't just expect from gay people to NEVER fall in love. You have to realize that the gay person who lives in the Western Society today has a lot to deal with. If a gay couple trying to abstain from sex, and you come and say to them that even if they are in love and they are not having sex, it is still a sin!! Really!! So the Church is not just objecting to the sex part, but even the emotional part ? I doubt it.
 
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We are supposed to avoid temptation regardless of how things look. There was a whole big discussion on this in mystagogia.

Unless they were open about their preferences, then why wouldn't they just be considered roommates?
 
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We are supposed to avoid temptation regardless of how things look. There was a whole big discussion on this in mystagogia.
Everything is a temptation. Should I avoid buffets because I'm fat?

Edit: plus someone said "to avoid scandal". The roommates angle avoids the scandal and puts any "reading into" the situation on outsiders.
 
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This is a public forum, I'll reply to whatever I want to reply to. Homosexuality has existed outside of pagan rituals for the whole of history. Read more books.
Not wishing to be picky, but it IS OBOB. That said, I think your comment was perfectly valid and reasonable.
 
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Is this the Catholic Church teachings or your own opinion ? Someone can easily say that about a monk, nun, or priest.

Please, let us be understanding. You can't just expect from gay people to NEVER fall in love. You have to realize that the gay person who lives in the Western Society today has a lot to deal with. If a gay couple trying to abstain from sex, and you come and say to them that even if they are in love and they are not having sex, it is still a sin!! Really!! So the Church is not just objecting to the sex part, but even the emotional part ? I doubt it.

yes, they live in a society that sees no wrong in what they want.
A society that goes so far as to promote that view.

the problem is that is not the kind of relationship that God approves of.

your scenario is no different than if we were discussing two people in collusion with each other who wanted to commit murder,
or rob a bank,
or cheat on their taxes, who did nothing but think about these things and fantasize about actually doing them.

The temptation in itself is not wrong, but it is misunderstood and misplaced.
what is wrong is knowingly indulging in circumstances which could lead to sin instead of avoiding those circumstances in the first place.

This is what Christ's temptation in the wilderness by satan was all about.
Satan set Christ up when Christ was physically stressed and weak, and urged Him to take the shortcut and
indulge then in what God had promised Him for the future---without all the pain and toil and frustration and sacrifice required to get there.
Satan wanted Christ to say yes and take the easy way out; to grab the brass ring, change His loyalties, and enjoy Himself.

Temporary earthly satisfaction was the temptation of the day.
and all it would cost was an eternity in hell for all of humanity.

think about that, and remember who it is that is making such an offer the next time you ask people to be understanding.

p.s. a monk, a nun, or a priest are all called to holiness and chastity, and to love God before all else.
 
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What is the Catholic Church view of a gay couple living together, loving each other, but abstaining from sex ?

If there is nothing sexual about their relationship, then why define their relationship in terms of sexual orientation?
 
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Everything is a temptation. Should I avoid buffets because I'm fat?
I would seriously suggest avoiding buffets...or anything else that would tempt you to overeat.

Edit: plus someone said "to avoid scandal". The roommates angle avoids the scandal and puts any "reading into" the situation on outsiders.

Consider a heterosexual guy, living alone with a beautiful woman...they are attracted to each other...maybe they are even in love.
Tell me that, sooner or later, these "room mates" aren't going to find themselves "sleeping" in the same bed? Go ahead...tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...tell me lies and give me alibis...
 
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What is the Catholic Church view of a gay couple living together, loving each other, but abstaining from sex?
When we pray the Our Father prayer we say, "lead us not into temptation."
 
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Egg and sperm defines sex. The rest is massage and affection with is not sex. It's impossible for gay to have sex so all the gay fuss is totally useless. Friendship is ancient and no need trying to relabel friendship. Gay is a fad that will die away in a few years when they realize they can't be two that makes one flesh, a baby.
Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground
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Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Now, what do you think these guys wanted to "know" about those angels?
 
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I would like to remind all posters here that non-Catholics are very welcome to post in friendship and fellowship [ not always the same :) ] however courtesy is also expected .

Facts of history are always welcome - though a citation is also welcome for some aspects that do seem to be against the teaching of the Church.

Comments along the line of
You may be a fad yourself. You ought not to reply to my posts. I have better things to do
and
This is a public forum, I'll reply to whatever I want to reply to.
are not helpful.
 
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I didn't think this subject was even allowed to be discussed save in specific forums, not including this one. That not even the word, "G" or "H", could be used outside those confines.

Life is about more than just 'words'
 
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