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I think the issue is, many are not clear on what you have to offer. You keep claiming you have this special knowledge and others are missing the boat and being lead astray by following the wrong map, but when asked to demonstrate this knowledge, things seem to fall flat.
Thank you, I consider your comment respectful. That is rare here (unfortunately).

One must consider what is being purposed in order to consider what is reasonable. For instance, if I said, Hey, I have something to show you...you will just need to cross town to see it. That would be reasonable. But on the other hand, if I said I have something to show you that is out of this world. What then is reasonable? Internal demonstrations are reasonable internally, but not externally. Dialog is reasonable...but continuing to demand internal demonstrations is not. What would you suggest?
 
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Thank you, I consider your comment respectful. That is rare here (unfortunately).

One must consider what is being purposed in order to consider what is reasonable. For instance, if I said, Hey, I have something to show you...you will just need to cross town to see it. That would be reasonable. But on the other hand, if I said I have something to show you that is out of this world. What then is reasonable? Internal demonstrations are reasonable internally, but not externally. Dialog is reasonable...but continuing to demand internal demonstrations is not. What would you suggest?

All you have done is make claims about your knowledge and also about how wrong people are and how they are being led astray who don't believe as you do. You also appear quite certain your claims are correct and if so, it would be up to you to demonstrate to others, what your special knowledge is and why others are being led astray.

Lets say you were approached by someone who believed in a different God and or different religion and they made the same claims about you; they have special knowledge you don't have and they say you are being led astray and are using the wrong road map.

How would you want them to demonstrate to you, that they were correct in their claims of special knowledge you don't have and being able to demonstrate to you, that you are being led astray?
 
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I agree. Nor do I understand what he wants us to discuss in this thread he started. It seems more preachy than anything. I especially don't understand why it's in an interfaith board that's all about debate and discussion, since he doesn't seem interested in those things.
My intention is to reach out to those who may be seeking. This thread was to give a modern analogy of how cutting out information, killing those who oppose, and isolation from the outside (big picture), does not make it go away. We can discuss it or not, but the outside truth is still there.
 
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My intention is to reach out to those who may be seeking. This thread was to give a modern analogy of how cutting out information, killing those who oppose, and isolation from the outside (big picture), does not make it go away. We can discuss it or not, but the outside truth is still there.

You have been allowed to make your claims and you have.

What you have failed to do (IMO) is come anywhere close to supporting your claims with any reliable evidence, except repeating what you always do; I am the expert, I have special knowledge and you are being led astray.

You have yet to show any any knowledge of outside truth, which is reliable or verifiable.
 
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I'm sorry that your personal belief system causes you to have these feelings, but it's not really our problem. You're free to think that you know something essential that we don't know. That's part of your religion, and I respect it. But it doesn't have anything to do with me.
You have not been paying attention. I have clearly stated that I do NOT "believe", nor do I have "faith"...which cannot be defined as "religion." I am the recipient of extra-universal knowledge, just as anyone does who has been born again of the spirit of God.

As for it not having anything to do with you, you may be more correct than I have given you credit for. In which, I say: "Carry on, as you were. You shall inherit the earth." But if carrying on as you were, includes seeking that which is currently beyond your horizon...I would suggest your respect be extended to include other information.
 
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Yes, and mostly those who do not consider God to be real. They are the furthest removed from the reality of life, and the most caught in the trap of physical existence.

Glad you made it out of the corn! :)
So what's your advice for such folks who don't believe God to be real?
 
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Ok. So when someone disagrees with you on this, what's the next thing you say?
What is the next thing to say to anything that does not agree with truth? It's a choice. I would say, that if you have any interest in the one truth possible amongst the multitude of lies and false claims...don't close the door of your mind, but keep searching with the idea that one is true. But I would also include a caution, not to be fooled into thinking that isolated truth, is ultimate truth.
 
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If you can't demonstrate why your "sight" is superior at identifying reality, you can likely expect your claims of knowledge to keep failing.
Pay attention. Extra-universal knowledge cannot be demonstrated internally. Why do you keep purposing it? It's impossible.
 
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What is the next thing to say to anything that does not agree with truth? It's a choice. I would say, that if you have any interest in the one truth possible amongst the multitude of lies and false claims...don't close the door of you mind, but keep searching with the idea that one is true. But I would also include a caution, not to be fooled into thinking that isolated truth, is ultimate truth.

What truth?

I have no logical reason to believe you have any special truths.
 
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You also appear quite certain your claims are correct and if so, it would be up to you to demonstrate to others, what your special knowledge is and why others are being led astray.
No, just as it is with all means of attaining knowledge, the escalator only goes up. You either go or stay.
Lets say you were approached by someone who believed in a different God and or different religion and they made the same claims about you; they have special knowledge you don't have and they say you are being led astray and are using the wrong road map.

How would you want them to demonstrate to you, that they were correct in their claims of special knowledge you don't have and being able to demonstrate to you, that you are being led astray?
If I were at the front of a line, and someone approached me from down the line and began demonstrating to me that they were at the front...I would call security.
 
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No, just as it is with all means of attaining knowledge, the escalator only goes up. You either go or stay.
If I were at the front of a line, and someone approached me from down the line and began demonstrating to me that they were at the front...I would call security.

More empty rhetoric.

You have provided nothing to me, to show me your words are anything but empty claims, being driven by your personal need to believe them.

I will check back from time to time, to see if you have anything new or anything of any substance, besides preaching.

Have fun.
 
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I have met you where you are.
So you are coming at me. Have you read this forum's statement of purpose?

But you seem not to want what I have to offer.
I am not sure what you have to offer. Would I like for there to be more to human existence than this brief biological stint on Earth? Sure, but that is no reason to abandon critical thought.
The real question is, why do you still keep coming...and coming to me personally?
Such is the nature of an open forum. As you can see from my posting history, I have not been waiting here for you to arrive. If you wish privacy, use the PM function with those you want to "share" with.
Something must be troubling you.
Be careful not to project. If you would like to talk about your doubts and fears, feel free to do so.
I just don't like your clinging.
Try generating less static. :)
 
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So what's your advice for such folks who don't believe God to be real?
You know...I don't consider it is for everyone. But for those who have even an inkling of the possibility, I would repeat what has been said already, "Keep seeking, keep knocking, and the door shall be opened to you."
 
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What truth?

I have no logical reason to believe you have any special truths.
You come to the table of knowledge and ask, What do you have? and say, I have no reason to believe you have anything?

Why did you come?
 
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