Yet Again, At Planet Fitness...

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I got a better idea, keep men out of women's private spaces and we won't have to do anything. It'll save a lot of money. Of course if a business wants to do it differently then be my guest. It's their business.
It IS their business and I would think it's more profitable to make stalls that are private regardless of gender. Problem solved. No crybabies or whiners need to kick up a fuss at that point and business owners can protect themselves which is a win/win in my opinion
 
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I didn't "attack" or "goad" anybody. I basically said grow up.
@rturner76 said “Is this really all you have to cry about? Boo-hoo, vote with your wallet, and don't patronize places where people can be exposed. Have you ever posted any opinion that doesn't lock-step adhere to the right-wing republican's worldview? I mean ever in life?”
If you don’t see anything wrong with that then you are the one that needs to grow up.
 
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It IS their business and I would think it's more profitable to make stalls that are private regardless of gender. Problem solved. No crybabies or whiners need to kick up a fuss at that point and business owners can protect themselves which is a win/win in my opinion
Have you ever been in a locker room, ever?
 
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Planet Fitness has lost some 400 million in stock value so people have voted with their money.
That is the natural law on display when in comes to supply and demand. Women are demanding privacy so they can either supply it or lose business to someone who does supply the privacy they desire.
The interesting thing is that on a long enough timeline....this will simply remove real women from many public and private places.

Eventually enough women will know or be someone who has been harassed or assaulted in these places and the resulting anxiety that they are unsafe will result in an increasing number of women working out at home.
This is funny. Some people cling so hard to conservatism that they demand that laws should be changed. That should be the opposite of right-wing rhetoric. So politically people care more about having the right to carry a firearm whenever they want but they don't want to ensure that people have privacy when they take a shower or a dump? It seems like this line of thinking is more caveman-ish than anything that a modern thinker does. It's like "We should have the right to kill someone on sight but we don't have a right to privacy on the crapper."

It is so easy to add a larger door that doesn't allow people to peek inside, if they can't accomplish that simple consumer demand, they deserve for people to vote for someone else with their wallet. Making it so we have open stalls is not keeping up with the wishes of modern society. There is no need for a men's or women's bathroom or shower to be open, allowing the pervs to take a peek or a pic. The most sensible answer is for businesses to install private stalls.

I went to a restaurant where there was a door on every stall that was lined up all in a row. Total privacy for the pooper and a communal sink. There was no need to direct people to the women's only restroom or the men's because like I keep saying, everyone will have privacy with just a couple of changes that allowed for every stall or shower to be private. Problem solved.

Why fight about men's and women's bathrooms/showers when some war can be waged to steal other countries' natural resources? That is more in the right-wing conservative wheelhouse.
 
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Have you ever been in a locker room, ever?
I played football and wrestled. Are you really going to post something that eludes to a lack of ability to make shower stalls private? Do you think we aren't capable of putting up a participant and a door on shower stalls? They fact that I have spent many years in sports in the park board, Jr. high and highschool let's me know what an insignificant upgrade that would be.

What your people (nor you) are not admitting is that you would rather ban transgenderism that put up a door. It's 2024 and all of that running a government based on Judeao-Christian commandments is over. The government is secular and our economic system is based on capitalism which at it's heart states "adapt or fail." If one can't be bothered to make their showers and toilet stalls private, People will vote with their wallets and put them out of business.
 
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@rturner76 said “Is this really all you have to cry about? Boo-hoo, vote with your wallet, and don't patronize places where people can be exposed. Have you ever posted any opinion that doesn't lock-step adhere to the right-wing republican's worldview? I mean ever in life?”
If you don’t see anything wrong with that then you are the one that needs to grow up.
I askeed a couple questions about what they posted and I suggested the maybe they are the one with the problem and not society.

You see, right-wing conservatives create threads like this in order to vilify transgender people. By making it about the separation of men and women and not about personal privacy, it is transgenderism they blame and not the company for not providing privacy.

Do you think the issue is deciding who is a real women and who is not when regulating who is allowed to use a particular restroom or is the issue more that they should provide private places to dedicate and shower for both men and women?
 
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I askeed a couple questions about what they posted and I suggested the maybe they are the one with the problem and not society.

You see, right-wing conservatives create threads like this in order to vilify transgender people. By making it about the separation of men and women and not about personal privacy, it is transgenderism they blame and not the company for not providing privacy.

Do you think the issue is deciding who is a real women and who is not when regulating who is allowed to use a particular restroom or is the issue more that they should provide private places to dedicate and shower for both men and women?
@Ana the 1st is not a conservative. It’s his thread
 
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I played football and wrestled. Are you really going to post something that eludes to a lack of ability to make shower stalls private? Do you think we aren't capable of putting up a participant and a door on shower stalls? They fact that I have spent many years in sports in the park board, Jr. high and highschool let's me know what an insignificant upgrade that would be.

What your people (nor you) are not admitting is that you would rather ban transgenderism that put up a door. It's 2024 and all of that running a government based on Judeao-Christian commandments is over. The government is secular and our economic system is based on capitalism which at it's heart states "adapt or fail." If one can't be bothered to make their showers and toilet stalls private, People will vote with their wallets and put them out of business.
What is any of that going to do about a biological male walking around naked in the women’s locker room?
 
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That is the natural law on display when in comes to supply and demand. Women are demanding privacy so they can either supply it or lose business to someone who does supply the privacy they desire.

It's weird the way the boycotting has worked out...

The left would threaten to boycott Starbucks because a couple of black guys got kicked out, and companies would immediately kowtow, fire someone, and require all employees to take some racial training on how to speak to black people....or they would simply ignore it and within roughly 2 weeks the boycott simply never materialized. In two weeks, the online mob would move onto something else.

The right on the other hand...they have Kid Rock shoot some beer cans, and because the main demographic of Bud Light didn't want to drink from cans with a little gay man dressed in a woman on them...it appeared to the outside observer that the "boycott" was real and costly. Bud Light tried to double down at first....and its consumer base just disappeared. Now businesses hear a mere threat of a boycott from the right and they start trying to cover their tracks and reverse course immediately.

I'm not saying that the right somehow organizes boycotts better....but guys didn't want to drink beer with a gay mascot on the can and businesses now worry if anyone on the right side of the aisle suggests a boycott lol.


This is funny. Some people cling so hard to conservatism that they demand that laws should be changed.

You don't think this happens on the left?


That should be the opposite of right-wing rhetoric. So politically people care more about having the right to carry a firearm whenever they want but they don't want to ensure that people have privacy when they take a shower or a dump?

Perhaps if you ran for office on your "dump privacy" laws you could get elected.



It seems like this line of thinking is more caveman-ish than anything that a modern thinker does. It's like "We should have the right to kill someone on sight but we don't have a right to privacy on the crapper."

We already have the right to own firearms....it's in the founding document.

Nobody really has a right to kill anyone on sight.


It is so easy to add a larger door that doesn't allow people to peek inside, if they can't accomplish that simple consumer demand, they deserve for people to vote for someone else with their wallet.

I've never been in the women's locker room so I've never known they have doors on their showers. I assumed they had a big tile room with a drain in the middle and shower heads on the walls.



I went to a restaurant where there was a door on every stall that was lined up all in a row.

Most restaurants I've eaten at had doors on the stalls. They also had urinals. This is a key factor in lines for the men's room being shorter.

Why fight about men's and women's bathrooms/showers when some war can be waged to steal other countries' natural resources? That is more in the right-wing conservative wheelhouse.

Are we talking about the Ukraine here or the impending war with Iran?

Trump didn't start any wars....but he did kill a general. If that war with Iran starts...we should be happy he removed that guy. Time magazine was doing articles on his talent.
 
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I'd like to see that quote lol. I do know he unequivocally rejects DEI in all forms.
It does not look like it started with Buffet. " If the hypothesis holds, it means, as suggested by Burton Malkiel, that a blindfolded monkey selecting stocks by throwing darts at a newspaper’s financial pages could perform as well as a financial analyst, or even better." Buffet just claims the statement is true. These are long term investments not short term.
 
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People do complain. The thing is people have to respect and and honor the rights of others. The WW2 Vets often said they would risk their life and even die to protect the opinions of others even when they do not agree. But really they know they do not have rights if they do not protect the rights of others.
Exactly and we are fighting to protect the rights of women and spaces of women from men who would come into their spaces and harm them harass them or generally disturb them with their presence. Men don't belong there. Leave the women alone.
 
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You can shop on sugar daddy dot com if you want. They are legal but for me women do not fully understand men until there are about 30. It is a long slow gradual process before they are onto all the scams men want to use on them. Women want positive affirmation and men know how to play them with that.
Lol I don't think women above 30 understand men.
 
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He's claiming to be a lot of things in that bio...I don't know if he's diagnosed or just one of those people who self-diagnoses because mental illness is trendy. He is an LGBTQ advocate/activist and that seems to be a more likely explanation of his actions than being bipolar.
If it's the same guy then he's the first on this planet to claim he trans walk into a women's locker room, expose himself and ask someone to shower with him. I honestly don't think bi-polar works that way.
 
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It IS their business and I would think it's more profitable to make stalls that are private regardless of gender. Problem solved. No crybabies or whiners need to kick up a fuss at that point and business owners can protect themselves which is a win/win in my opinion
Yup, but if they don't want to do that then that's fine. They should then keep the men out of the women's spaces. It's a lot cheaper. But it is up to them.
 
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I’m pretty sure that women understand men just fine.
I do t think so. They aren't men. I'm sure women will try and convince you they do, but they don't really. They aren't men, how can they. That's why a trans person isn't really the opposite sex. They have no idea what the opposite sex feels like because they aren't one.
 
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