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10th Amendment to the US Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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One of the first things they taught us in the police academy was that a person did not have to be a US citizen to have their rights violated.
Violate their rights and you can be charged and sued
 
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One of the first things they taught us in the police academy was that a person did not have to be a US citizen to have their rights violated.

Well, that's just bad legal advice since citizens don't have rights under the Constitution.

Too bad cops can be sued for doing their jobs to protect legal citizens

Another example of government failing to do it's job to protect citizens.
 
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Well, that's just bad legal advice since citizens don't have rights under the Constitution.

Too bad cops can be sued for doing their jobs to protect legal citizens

Another example of government failing to do it's job to protect citizens.
Umm I hate to tell you but you are wrong about this.
Any person in the United States can have their rights violated, they don’t have to be a citizen.
I think I’ll trust people who made their living training law enforcement officers over you
I just noticed you said citizens don’t have rights under the constitution but I assume you meant non citizens. Either way you’re wrong
 
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I think I’ll trust people who made their living training law enforcement officers over you

And they will protect illegal aliens over and above American citizens as we are seeing now.

It's the America last policies of the left coming to fruition as they are finally getting their dream of the US becoming a third world nation full of crime and chaos.
 
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And they will protect illegal aliens over and above American citizens as we are seeing now.

It's the America last policies of the left coming to fruition as they are finally getting their dream of the US becoming a third world nation full of crime and chaos.
I hear you.
 
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Non-citizens have NO rights under the Constitution
There it is, the “not even wrong” moment.
Please enjoy knowing better than everyone else.
 
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The Constitution specifically says rights not given to the fed belong to the states. Case closed!

Not quite. It's more complicated than that. Are you familiar with the 9th Amendment?

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

This language is clearly saying that some rights belong neither to the federal government, nor to the states, but to the people. Why should a private medical decision between physician and patient--involving FDA approved medications, or a surgical procedure--and done with the patient's fully informed consent--not be recognized as a personal unenumerated right?
 
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Not quite. It's more complicated than that.

No, not when one accepts the Constitution which the 10th Amendment is now a part of.

That's the problem with people these days is they always trying to spin things they don't like

The 10 Amendment is so easy to understand, one has to go find help to MIS-understand it:

10th Amendment to the US Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In other words, the fed needs to butt out of the state's business unless the Constitution specifically gives them the right to manage something.



This dude from The Office tv show gets it!


Please enjoy knowing better than everyone else.

Well it's certainly sad to see that some folks believe non-citizens have the same rights as US Citizens.

This represents the decay of this nation that is leading the US to it's demise.

Oh well, we had a good run...
 
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No, not when one accepts the Constitution which the 10th Amendment is now a part of.

That's the problem with people these days is they always trying to spin things they don't like

The 10 Amendment is so easy to understand, one has to go find help to MIS-understand it:

10th Amendment to the US Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In other words, the fed needs to butt out of the state's business unless the Constitution specifically gives them the right to manage something.




This dude from The Office tv show gets it!




Well it's certainly sad to see that some folks believe non-citizens have the same rights as US Citizens.

This represents the decay of this nation that is leading the US to it's demise.

Oh well, we had a good run...
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No, not when one accepts the Constitution which the 10th Amendment is now a part of.

That's the problem with people these days is they always trying to spin things they don't like

The 10 Amendment is so easy to understand, one has to go find help to MIS-understand it:

10th Amendment to the US Constitution
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In other words, the fed needs to butt out of the state's business unless the Constitution specifically gives them the right to manage something.




This dude from The Office tv show gets it!




Well it's certainly sad to see that some folks believe non-citizens have the same rights as US Citizens.

This represents the decay of this nation that is leading the US to it's demise.

Oh well, we had a good run...
Yes, immigrants are protected by the U.S. Constitution.
●The brief answer is “Yes.” When it comes to key constitutional provisions like due process and equal treatment under the law, the U.S. Constitution applies to all persons – which includes both documented and undocumented immigrants – and not just U.S. citizens.

Law enforcement asks about my immigration status​

How to reduce risk to yourself

  • Stay calm. Don’t run, argue, resist, or obstruct the officer, even if you believe your rights are being violated. Keep your hands where police can see them.
  • Don’t lie about your status or provide false documents.

Your rights

  • You have the right to remain silent and do not have to discuss your immigration or citizenship status with police, immigration agents, or other officials. Anything you tell an officer can later be used against you in immigration court.
  • If you are not a U.S. citizen and an immigration agent requests your immigration papers, you must show them if you have them with you.
  • If an immigration agent asks if they can search you, you have the right to say no. Agents do not have the right to search you or your belongings without your consent or probable cause.
  • If you’re over 18, carry your papers with you at all times. If you don’t have them, tell the officer that you want to remain silent, or that you want to consult a lawyer before answering any questions.

 
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No, not when one accepts the Constitution which the 10th Amendment is now a part of.

That's the problem with people these days is they always trying to spin things they don't like

The 10 Amendment is so easy to understand, one has to go find help to MIS-understand it:
You're evading the issue. The 9th Amendment is as much a part of the Bill of Rights as are the other 9. And it too, must be accepted as such. It's language says that other, unenumerated rights may exist, and they belong to the people--not to Congress, nor to state legislatures. An example would be a woman's right to make a private medical decision with a licensed health care provider.

And BTW, where does the Constitution say, or even imply, that the unborn are "persons" as that term is used in the 14th Amendment, or anywhere else in the document?
 
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Yes, immigrants are protected by the U.S. Constitution.

I see so ... being an American citizen is worthless then as our rights are meaningless and we have now become subservient to the criminal illegal aliens.

Looks like the end of the republic has arrived sooner than expected.
 
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I see so ... being an American citizen is worthless then as our rights are meaningless and we have now become subservient to the criminal illegal aliens.

Looks like the end of the republic has arrived sooner than expected.
When it was written it said persons, not citizens. This is not a recent development
 
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When it was written it said persons, not citizens. This is not a recent development

Well, then enjoy the chaos that arrives when the republic falls.

That's part of the plan of the globalists is to make being an American worthless and then make America itself worthless.

What's hilarious is seeing clueless Americans so slow they are in agreement with their own demise!
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Other countries at least have enough common sense to stand up for themselves, but not Americans
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Well, then enjoy the chaos that arrives when the republic falls.
Non-citizens have been protected by the Constitution since the beginning. We haven't fallen yet.
That's part of the plan of the globalists is to make being an American worthless and then make America itself worthless.
I don't see how non-citizens having rights makes being an American worthless. Can you please explain that to me? Also, how is it a plan of the globalists if this state of being has been true since its founding?
What's hilarious is seeing clueless Americans so slow they are in agreement with their own demise! View attachment 345796

Other countries at least have enough common sense to stand up for themselves, but not Americans View attachment 345797
How is protecting the rights of even non-citizens not standing up for America?
 
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Well, then enjoy the chaos that arrives when the republic falls.

That's part of the plan of the globalists is to make being an American worthless and then make America itself worthless.

What's hilarious is seeing clueless Americans so slow they are in agreement with their own demise! View attachment 345796

Other countries at least have enough common sense to stand up for themselves, but not Americans View attachment 345797
I’m certainly not in favor of letting all these people come here, I’m just telling you that non citizens have rights too
 
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