Running Cover For Biden’s Senility Is The Umpteenth Example Of How Media Interfere In Elections

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Somehow actual footage is propaganda
Can be yes. When they cut out things so that it is out of context, or missing some revealing information. Also when they have voice overs give a false narrative. Or when they doctor it by slowing certain parts down to mislead the audience
 
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This is silly. If you don't like the options I presented, present your own. I have never suggested that you must be constrained to the options I present.

I think Biden is exhibiting obvious and concerning signs of mental decline. Others here apparently believe Biden is "sharp" and if you believe Biden is exhibiting signs of mental decline it is surely because you've bought into Russian (or Fox News) propaganda.

What say you?
I think those "others here" are figments of your imagination.
 
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Thanks. This is exactly what I’m talking about
The attempt to make this about me and other posters personally as the talking points fall apart in the face of facts is noted. It's quite telling, thanks for letting us know how little there is backing up the rhetoric.

It's also a pretty petty personal attacks - better hope the mods don't catch on.
 
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The other 23.9 hours of his day (though we could probably skip the sleeping hours, to be fair).

So you think these are isolated incidents, despite the fact that there are countless examples of Biden using the wrong names, looking lost on stage, wandering off awkwardly, etc?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen enough to be concerned. So have 50% of Democrat voters.
 
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I think those "others here" are figments of your imagination.

No, not at all. There are multiple people here suggesting that the "narrative" that Biden is a forgetful, old man is just Russian and/or Fox News propaganda. They're real. Perhaps you've not been following along.
 
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So you think these are isolated incidents, despite the fact that there are countless examples of Biden using the wrong names, looking lost on stage, wandering off awkwardly, etc?
They certainly could be isolated incidents. We don't know, because all we see are the out-of-context clips.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen enough to be concerned. So have 50% of Democrat voters.
Might that have anything to do with the fact that the media you follow continuously pushes these clips at you?
 
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Can be yes. When they cut out things so that it is out of context, or missing some revealing information. Also when they have voice overs give a false narrative. Or when they doctor it by slowing certain parts down to mislead the audience
Thank you. This is more of what I’m talking about
 
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The attempt to make this about me and other posters personally as the talking points fall apart in the face of facts is noted. It's quite telling, thanks for letting us know how little there is backing up the rhetoric.

It's also a pretty petty personal attacks - better hope the mods don't catch on.
I don’t see how it’s personal to observe the lengths people go to to assert that there’s nothing to see here when it comes to Biden’s gaffes, awkward pauses, getting names mixed up, saying he’s talking to people who are dead and his confusion.
But your attempt to intimidate me with an implication of my being in violation of the rules is noted.
 
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They certainly could be isolated incidents. We don't know, because all we see are the out-of-context clips.

Might that have anything to do with the fact that the media you follow continuously pushes these clips at you?
How are they out of context exactly?
 
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They certainly could be isolated incidents. We don't know, because all we see are the out-of-context clips.

Except they're not "out of context".

Might that have anything to do with the fact that the media you follow continuously pushes these clips at you?

How would you have any idea what "media (I) follow continuously"? And I'm pretty sure that I don't follow the same media that many liberal Democrats would follow, and we share the same concerns.
 
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How are they out of context exactly?

I think what he's trying to say is that the clips are "out of context" with the rest of Biden's life, which would only be pertinent if there were reason to believe that Biden's private behavior is different from what we see when he is in public. But there's really no reason to believe that.
 
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I think what he's trying to say is that the clips are "out of context" with the rest of Biden's life, which would only be pertinent if there were reason to believe that Biden's private behavior is different from what we see when he is in public. But there's really no reason to believe that.
From what I understand that includes frequent angry outbursts and cussing at staff, another symptom of dementia
 
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From what I understand that includes frequent angry outbursts and cussing at staff, another symptom of dementia

To be clear, I don't know what, if anything, Biden has going on from a mental health perspective. I do however believe that a formal assessment is appropriate. The idea that his doctor thinks everything is just peachy isn't cutting it with voters. I believe an objective, third-party cognitive assessment should be done on ALL candidates.
 
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No, not at all. There are multiple people here suggesting that the "narrative" that Biden is a forgetful, old man is just Russian and/or Fox News propaganda. They're real. Perhaps you've not been following along.
That it is propaganda is certainly true. That it is just propaganda I don't think has ever been asserted. All here are in agreement that Biden is definitely showing signs of age.
 
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That it is propaganda is certainly true. That it is just propaganda I don't think has ever been asserted. All here are in agreement that Biden is definitely showing signs of age.

But all are not in agreement that Biden, an 81-year old man that we're all in agreement is showing signs of age, should have a formal cognitive assessment.

I guess I just don't see why there is such opposition to a cognitive assessment. Perhaps Biden is just exhibiting normal signs of aging. Perhaps he is experiencing some form of mental decline. None of us really know. That's WHY cognitive assessments are done.
 
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But all are not in agreement that Biden, an 81-year old man that we're all in agreement is showing signs of age, should have a formal cognitive assessment.

I guess I just don't see why there is such opposition to a cognitive assessment. Perhaps Biden is just exhibiting normal signs of aging. Perhaps he is experiencing some form of mental decline. None of us really know. That's WHY cognitive assessments are done.
By not having an assessment he makes it look like there is something to hide.
And surely people don’t think the special counsel’s report was propaganda do they?
 
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To be clear, I don't know what, if anything, Biden has going on from a mental health perspective. I do however believe that a formal assessment is appropriate. The idea that his doctor thinks everything is just peachy isn't cutting it with voters. I believe an objective, third-party cognitive assessment should be done on ALL candidates.
I’m not diagnosing him either, I just note that he is exhibiting symptoms of some kind of mental decline.
 
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I don’t see how it’s personal to observe the lengths people go to to assert that there’s nothing to see here when it comes to Biden’s gaffes, awkward pauses, getting names mixed up, saying he’s talking to people who are dead and his confusion.
And what are we to do with this claim that some people go to some unspecified, vague lengths to do whatever it is they're accused of doing?
Wouldn't it be better to address what they actually posted rather than make up innuendo about them for doing whatever it is that is allegedly so bad?
 
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But all are not in agreement that Biden, an 81-year old man that we're all in agreement is showing signs of age, should have a formal cognitive assessment.
I'm not entirely sure that's true, either. He will have had the usual informal evaluation that his doctor routinely performs. We don't know if he has had a more formal evaluation. Unfortunately, a demand for a publicly released one from his opponents is not likely to arise from any disinterested for "the voters" especially as their candidate has not submitted to one himself.
I guess I just don't see why there is such opposition to a cognitive assessment.
The opposition is actually to a gotcha game you are trying to play;
Perhaps Biden is just exhibiting normal signs of aging. Perhaps he is experiencing some form of mental decline. None of us really know. That's WHY cognitive assessments are done.
 
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And what are we to do with this claim that some people go to some unspecified, vague lengths to do whatever it is they're accused of doing?
Wouldn't it be better to address what they actually posted rather than make up innuendo about them for doing whatever it is that is allegedly so bad?
It’s their right to believe and post whatever they like. I just find the level of denial it takes amazing.
 
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