No, what you did was commit yet another interpretation fallacy - combining elements from 2 completely different and unrelated passages to derive a meaning that is alien to both.
This is done justly and I used the scripture to show that Jesus was sent by the Father in both and he sends believers as the father sent him. This is what I was showing, Not your straw man fallacy. I don't think I have ever seen a more confused person twist scripture and use fallacy arguments more than you. You have no understanding of spiritual things at all from what you say. You run in a frantic fluster to many attacks on any scriptural correction or correction you get here. I see pride as the main error you are in, you act as if you are some great one, some great natural man in mans wisdom who uses excellency of speech and other mens words. You seem to be very troubled ay anything spiritual. But Christianity is a spiritual belief. Believers are taught by the Spirit, empowered by the Spirit, led by the Spirit, walk in the Spirit, worship in the Spirit, pray in the Spirit, speak in the Spirit, have revelations in the Spirit prophesy in the Spirit, speak in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, live in the Spirit, have the Spirit of God dwelling in them. and many other spiritual realities as they live n Christ. Of which I and many other christians have experience many times, daily in fact. This is the normal christian life, or it should be.
Here are some of the false attacks you use in your discussion.
1. You just deny any scripture or correction towards your words and twist the text to try and make it not say what it does not say.
2. You attack the text in the manuscripts by saying the KJV is wrong. This is done by many when they cannot deal with the actual scripture and who resort to corrupt translations that disagree with eachother in thousands of places. Or you try and run to other versions. I use other versions to show you simply that the words I use are also used by others. But I only need the one book.
3. You run in a fearful frenzy to any commentator you think can agree with you. But mostly they do not disagree with what i say. And I do not put men above that which is written. There are many commentators that will agree with what I share but it is not a matter to me. I see the text and it is clear enough. God shows many proofs of the teaching I have been showing .
4. You try to go to the Greek or Hebrew to search in a fluster to find some meaning of a word that you think can change the clear meaning from scripture. I use the Greek and Hebrew as a general meaning of a word, I do not change the word as you do. I
5. When you are corrected clearly you try to change the subject and create another fallacy argument by going off in a different direction.
6. You try to build a straw man fallacy against what I say by reframing what you are trying to make me say and say things like I am trying to say that God speaks in impressions or esp, or feelings etc. I have shown I am speaking of hearing Gods voice, in words in the spirit and heart.
7. You try to arrack my person and say lies about me so many times I can barely present them al;l. This is done when your argument fails. I do not do this to you, i rebuke, correct, warn and exhort you, in hopes that you will see your error and come to the light of truth.
8. You also seem to trust a false reasoning that because you think a certain number of men do not see what I share ( even though others do) that the number of men that you use makes you right. This is a false reasoning. The majority is often wrong Icould bring many example for this.
By doing that you can make the bible saying virtually anything you like.
No, I do not do this. The hidden things of God are only seen and hear in the Spirit, and taught by the Spirit, which you claim to never have been taught this way. You act as if you just reading scripture and having it in your brain teaches you. This is not what scripture says.
But you on the other hand try to say that because Paul speaks of his own experience "also" to the Corinthians that that means only he and a few other apostles have the Holy Ghost Teach them" this is a false reasoning. It does not mean that no one else can have the Holy Ghost teaching just because Paul said the revelation of the things of God that he :also: spoke were from the Holy Ghost teaching. Your argument is childish and false and you are
Such as in the infamous example that the bible advocates suicide....
Mat 27:5 and Judas went and hanged himself
Luke 10:37 And Jesus said “You go, and do likewise."
thats ridiculous to apply that to what i show, and a false attack on the scriptures I rightly divided.
I think you have probably committed every one of those interpretation fallacies from that list.
I haven't committed any, all I say has a biblical foundation and a spiritual understanding. Even when you are rebuked or corrected or exhorted, this is part of Christian ministry. You know very little of the scriptures or the power of God. You have a form of godliness but seem to deny the power.
Everyone here can now see how much you twist scripture in order to force in your unorthodox ideas into scripture.
No, they can all see that you simply attack and deny the revelation of the Spirit in the lives of believers, and you are in trouble with God when you try to lead believers away from hearing Gods voice and knowing Him inwardly and the teaching of the Spirit and your bizzar views of 1 John 2:27 and 1 Cor 2 and many other verses expose your understanding. I feel like I talk to a religious man of Jesus day that Jesus constantly warned.
I and many other believers have experience of hearing Gods voice and unction and revelation and many things God has worked in our lives and directed us to do and say. You don't seem to have this so you simply attack those who di. This may be due to a wrong view of the gifts of the Spirit and apostles and prophets today. Which you seem to hide from that discussion for some reason, although it is very relevant to this discussion.
Your teaching is false, and not to be trusted.
No I teach what scripture teaches, I have not taught anything false, even the word of God coming to them or out of them understanding was accurate.
I showed you clearly that the Corinthians were enriched in everything by God and in all utterance. and they spoke by the Spirit and in words of prophecy from God and word of wisdom as a gift from God and a word of knowledge from God and tongues etc . But you just ignore these evidences and this is your fault in many places.
As I said, it is the fallacy of non-sequitur. Just because believers are drawn to Christ at salvation
This is your fallacy argument again. I never said this the way you do. I showed that all men who would come to Jesus had to have first been taught by God taught by the Father and heard him and this is inward in their heart as scripture shows. Thine they were " before they even met Jesus or heard him speak. Thine they were and the Father gave them to Jesus.
I will say another thing that you may not understand. But all the apostles were saved before they even met Jesus. When Peter said to Jesus that he was the Christ the Son of God, that was not the moment of his salvation. Jesus said His sheep hear his voice and they know him. They were already his sheep. He went by Matthew and said for him to follow him and Matthew left all and followed him right away. What repentance preaching or the gospel message did Jesus say to Matthew then?. He just told him to follow him.
But that evidenced that he was already saved and had heard from the Father who had taught him already. In fact Peter may have been saved as a child. The true Light lighteth every man that cometh into the world. And Peter and others had the Light in them shining. They had this true Light since they were born. if they , eventually in time were reproved by the light and looked to Gods righteousness and hungered after him and were taught f the father , then they would have life and have already repented and looked to God and His righteousness to be saved. That righteousness of God was revealed in Jesus Christ and his death and burrial and resurrection. But again this is a long teaching and you would just attack what was said.
is not proof that God gives them new revelations in the future by impressions, stirrings or the like.
I don't use your fallacy argument wording that you use in this particular discussion. I was not trying to prove that by this verse, this is your dishonest fallacy straw man arguments your do so often. It is dishonest and an attempt to escape the clarity of what I show.
I was firstly proving clearly that
all are taught of God, and this is the Father teaching them inwardly in the spirit. It is not flesh and blood that teaches them this way or reveals things to them, but the father as jesus said. . That was my point. But you could not argue against that because the verse is very clear that
all believers are taught of God. You said you have never been taught of God in the spirit, so what does that mean about you?
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.” (John 6:45 KJV)
I have said all alone that God speaks words in the spirit of believers, His voice and teaching . God can give many revelations as he did in 1 Cor 14 of anything. Even the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. If a person has a spiritual revelation of Jesus or some wonder Jesus showed him. They are not adding to scripture but sharing the revelation. this is on some sense a new thing. But not to add to scripture. Your reasoning here is false again as usual. It is unbelievable how little you understand of spiritual things. But I suppose it should be understandable since you said you never had the Holy Ghost teach you.
You'll need to find a better verse than that to prove your case.
T This verse is powerful enough to deal with false teachings. And I believe thats what you say when verse is too strong and you cannot answer it. The one verse here shatters all your false teaching and confusion. Just this one verse alone. I have many verses shown here but this one verse that you don't even try to interpret because it soo clearly rebukes you and stops the mouths of gainsayers. Read it again and again in prayer and ask, seek and knock in humility.
All can see your avoidance of these type of verses. Just keep writing on and this will be helpful for you sometime , hopefully.
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.” (John 6:45 KJV). This is not just talking about apostles being taught of God, this one verse corrects that false teaching of yours also. And, no, just because Paul in a certain places speaks "also" of his experience, doent mean that what he says is just for him. I could bring many examples of this.
You do this with some verses that clearly correct you. Then you try and change the argument and never admit your error and that is a big problem..
