Your pastor and his wife

[baptist4life]

I have no idea what your church's statement of faith is. However, women pastors and evolution go totally against Scripture, let alone Baptist beliefs. And what in the world does the fact that I have 34 posts have to do with anything?

 

[Goodbook]

Evolution???
What? i would say most baptists believe in the Bible and accept Gods creation as true, and the only evolution we agree with is variation within species, ie. Darwinian evolution is wrong. Theres heaps of evidence that his theory of the origins of species isnt supported by actual scientific evidence.

As for women pastors. Ok i think maybe this is a change that people are seeing and accepting in their churches because I noticed one of our members, she studied and got ordained to be a minister and is actually leaving to be the youth pastor at another church. I really dont know what to think of this as, even though the we see all the apostles being men and timothy being ordained and told a minsiter is the husband of one wife, there is no advice given to women except of keeping silence in church. Her husband has no such position.

And I have yet to hear her actually preach in sunday services, actually, no women preach in our church. When we are invited to speak and share we do so, but I havent ever seen women preaching and pastoring in the five years ive been attending baptist church.

Maybe this is something we can explore in our discussion. But I can see that both women pastors and evolution as being unbiblical depending on the context.

 

[baptist4life]

God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are necessarily better teachers or because women are inferior or less intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual leadership—in their lives and through their words. Women are to take a less authoritative role. Women are encouraged to teach other women (Titus 2:3–5). The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors to men. This does not make women less important, by any means, but rather gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with God’s plan and His gifting of them.

http://www.gotquestions.org/women-pastors.html

 

[YESLORDIWILL]

I lovedy love my pastor and his wife...they are all sorts of terrific, that Paul though

 

[Goodbook]

Yea this thread is about pastors and their wives.

Sorry. I had a think about this and please stick to the topic.

If your church has women who are pastors with their husbands make another thread. Im not saying it is right or wrong as I dont know others congregations but I dont want this to be a debate thread.

For my walk, the example of a pastor who guides with his shepherds crook not allowing me to fall away helps me to know God is looking after me. For example. One time when I was away from church for a while my pastor wrote me a letter saying he was praying for me. Now he could have been writing this to everyone in the church not just me, but the fact that he took the time to write touched me. And it was not that he was worried that i was not attending it was more like he cares. Also in our church bulletin theres always prayer directions and one of the, is to pray for everyone in the fellowship directory, it lists like this - pray for everyone on page 5 . The next day its pray for the ministers of the neighbouring church and their congregation.

 

[baptist4life]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I apologize.

 

[DawnStar]

Hmm.
Im sorry to say I dont know that his wife displays the same faith in His word as he does. She is mostly concerned with her children. Actually I am a bit worried about this to be honest. She was very quiet in our bible study and didnt say a word or prayed or anything.

I mean I was shy at first..but that was because I was a new christian and didnt know anybody..but i kinda think shes being going to church all her life probably so ought not to be shy of the things of God.

I saw her in church yesterday but she didnt speak to me or smile at me :-(. I would like to know her better but, with some young mums they are so concerned with their own children they forget everyone else. We prayed for her youngest who is starting school. She gave me her email but it bounced back?! I was inviting her to our ladies bible study lunch but the email she gave us bounced and I thought thats unusual. Will she be even able to get away and come? Her mother in law could look after her children while she fellowships with us.

I do not believe such gossip has a place on this forum.

 

[Goodbook]

It is not gossip.
I want to encourage prayers for pastors wives. As often overlooked. When my pastors wife died I felt sad that I did not know her that well before she left us. I have only been at this church for a few years and when we heard the news of diagnoisis many of the church were devastated. But she would get up and worship even when she was dying and obviously frail.

Her strength of faith even in adversity meant a lot. She has prayed for me and shown when he faith was tested that she would not give in to the enemy.

So I am thinking of our youth/associate pastor and of course his wife. The enemy does seek to kill, steal and destroy and I think that it is not gossip, it is concern if you think so, then I notice you are not contributing any encouraging things to say about your own pastor and his wife. I just think young mums are vulnerable and as she is new and also working full time may need her sisters around her. It is her husbands home church after all, she is new to town.

 

[Goodbook]

I also would like it if other members of my church were thinking and praying for me, and it wouldnt matter if they were going on a forum to talk about a care or concern as long as they were bringing it to the Lord.

 

[Goodbook]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread. I apologize.

Its ok but good point.

 

[The Portuguese Baptist]

I've never heard of a female pastor in a Baptist church. IMHO, that is totally un-Biblical, and like someone said above, I'd be looking for another TRUE Baptist church.

Just checked out your profile page. What is a "theistic evolutionist? Do you believe God used evolution in His creation?

An "evolutionist" with a female pastor too. Wow.

Baptist??? No way.

Baptist4life, whilst I entirely and absolutely agree with you that the ordination of women is unbiblical and that evolution is unbiblical, I do not think that disagreeing on these things is good reason to preclude anyone from being called a Baptist. Indeed, in my opinion, Baptists have a long, rich, admirable and commendable (not to say praise-worthy) tradition of following the Bible in all things.

However, unfortunately, more and more Baptists are breaking away from this tradition. Nevertheless, so long as they agree to our core values which gave us the nickname ‘Baptists’ (that is, salvation by grace through faith alone, practice of baptism as an ordinance commanded by Jesus but not necessary for salvation, baptising solely those who believe [that is, no babies or young children], and few more), I find it inappropriate to do what you are doing: saying that those people cannot be called Baptists. Please! Those things were not things which the first Baptists imposed as necessary beliefs, and nothing in our Baptist statements of faith prevents such beliefs. So, say it is not correct, say it is not biblical, but please do not say that it is not Baptist!

Whilst referencing me, you said: ‘[...] like someone said above, I'd be looking for another TRUE Baptist church’. That was not exactly what I said; I said I would be looking for ‘a more biblical’ church. It is incorrect to say that all Baptists must have only biblical beliefs; not all Baptists are entirely biblical in all their beliefs, unfortunately, and we must respect that — not accuse them of violating the honour of the good name ‘Baptist’.

 

[Goodbook]

What kinds of things does your pastor do to encourage you, guide you, how does his wife show you how a christian life is led..etc.

This is what the thread is about. I think pastors wives, while they are mostly have a meek and quiet spirit which is actually a christian thing of course!!! It is nice when they have a word in season and say something that has helped you. I dont mean to put down anyone ok?

 

[Goodbook]

Sometimes if we notice someone who could be a bit shy or weak in the faith its up to us stronger ones to draw out or encourage them or just really, to pray for them. I shared this same concern for another lady in my bible study and got some good advice on CF. then few months later God answered my prayers. She told me she and her husband were now studying the bible together and I even saw her come to church which she doesnt normally do.
And good news even her prayers for another child were answered and shes less worried about things.

I dont think it was gossip, but I was worried about her D&D interests. But now with the baby etc I dont think she is going back to it. For a time it was really taking her away from God and all this bad stuff seemed to be happening in her life. Like she was worried about lots of things a christian ought not to worry over.

 

[DawnStar]

It is not gossip.

The quotes I posted from you above reflect negatively upon her. Anytime you talk negatively about a person behind their back you are gossiping.

 

[DawnStar]

It is not gossip.
The enemy does seek to kill, steal and destroy and I think that it is not gossip, it is concern if you think so, then I notice you are not contributing any encouraging things to say about your own pastor and his wife.

My pastor is not married and does not like having praised heaped upon him for the job he does. He gives all the credit to the Lord and advises us to do the same. He does not care for man worship or pastor worship like many independent or fundamental baptist churches practice.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

The quotes I posted from you above reflect negatively upon her.

Do you even know who she is? Maybe I'm wrong and you know Goodbook, personally, but the quotes cannot reflect negatively on anyone if none of us has a clue who is being talked about. The situation could just as well have been purely hypothetical. Open communication is absolutely necessary for teaching and correction.

 

[Goodbook]

Sorry I don't know who Dawnstar is and I find those posts not very edifying.

I have not named names and do not praise my pastor to puff him up, he does not even know that while he is preaching just how Gods words through him have touched me or anyone else. But I just want to share my appreciation as, pastors have a hard job and don't always see rewards in this life. I mean it was hard when my pastor had to say goodbye to his wife when she died of cancer. It could have shaken anyone's faith.

 

[Goodbook]

Also, while pastors are looking after their flocks, who is looking after them? Well, Jesus of course, but while they are busy being his hands and feet we too can look back and reflect on how far we've come with their patience and guidance.

 

[Butterfly99]

My pastor and her husband are actually my in-laws. I think what helps me the most is to watch them with their little daughter (my niece) and how they instill the Word into her. It's really cool to hear a 2 year old sing "How Great Thou Art" at the top of her little lungs.

That's adorable. My pastor and her husband are my mom and dad. I'm extremely proud of them.

I completely love and adore my pastor and his wife. I call them daddy and momma
In all seriousness, they are amazing.
They began the church in our home before I was born, and it has grown to a three service church with well over 800 members plus adherents. We also have a Christian school that our church started as well.
We have a huge outreach into the community including a full size outdoor skating rink in the winter, soup kitchen, food cupboard, wood ministry(providing wood for people to heat their homes) plus an active street ministry.
I've learned so much about who God is and who God wants me to be by watching my parents.
I'm truely blessed by them.

For real, I feel exactly the same about my parents. They are amazing. Under my mom's leadership our church has grown in awesome ways.We have about the same size membership as yours, plus lots of folks who aren't members but like to come to services regularly. We are near DC. We have Congressmen, Senators & others with major influence over the rest of the country in our congregation. She helped to start up a special ministry for the deaf. We have a special ministry for the homeless too. We do a lot of outreach. We also have a lot going on every week right in the church. We don't have a skating rink tho, lol. Never heard of a church having one. That's fun. You know being on this forum has only made me all the prouder of my mom. God gave her so many talents & she uses them to glorify Him. She's also just a really super mom.

 

[Butterfly99]

I was thinking precisely the same thing. Just my opinion: if I were in that church, I would immediately move to a more biblical one.

Well our church is standing room only most Sundays so folks who have that attitude sure do help us out by not taking up space in the pews.