Transgender gets pregnant.

[Armoured]

"Medical condition" covers a lot of different things. It's basically anything that is not seen "normal" rather it be psychological, physical ,mental or even spiritual. This is just a play on words.

It really isn't. It's a recognised medical condition. Doctors specialise in it and everything.

 

[Cute Tink]

weren't you the one who was attacking people for not backing up their claims, you know, like you refuse to do here?

What claim have I been asked to back up? Feel free to quote the statement or question making such a request.

there are special terms for those people...like I said, no redefining words.

As noted, there are options other than just male with penis and female with vagina, which you stated "there are males and females, not both", yet you are demonstrably wrong.

 

[Smidlee]

It really isn't. It's a recognised medical condition. Doctors specialise in it and everything.

What just because they gave it a name?

Medical condition is the term used by the medical community, not a personal preference and not something I came up with to use.

The medical community is not our creators. Our physical , mental, psychological and spirit are all interconnected.

 

[Cute Tink]

It affects me when mental marshmallows try to pass laws that allow men to go into women's bathrooms and shower rooms.

It seems you misunderstand the situation. No biggie. No need to attack those who want to pass laws you don't seem to understand.

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

OK, so trans woman, does that mean you start out with a penis or a vagina? And if you don't use your main sex part, how do you [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]?

Not sure if it's allowed conversation, certainly not my business, but ya threw it out there and I am quite the curious one. So answer as you wish please.

I'm aware of gender dysphoria. Not sure how to spell it apparently, but aware of the condition.

And if y'all aren't trying to redefine words, please tell us what y'all are trying to do. Because calling Jenner a she when he clearly has all hardware of a he, sure seems like some redefining of the language.

 

[Armoured]

What just because they gave it a name?

...and study it, and work out treatments for it, and diagnose it, and have conferences about it... seriously, it's a real thing. As real as any other medical condition you care to name. Fortunately, these days the medical establishment offers care where it's needed, whether certain conditions exist that make non-sufferers uncomfortable or not.

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

Ok cutetink, explain those laws. Because if they allow people with penises to go into a ladies bathroom, I understand those laws quite well.

 

[Armoured]

And if y'all aren't trying to redefine words, please tell us what y'all are trying to do. Because calling Jenner a she when he clearly has all hardware of a he, sure seems like some redefining of the language.

She DOESN'T have all the hardware of a "he". That's the whole point. Her mental hardware is that of a female. Now, aesthetically and functionally, all the plumbing is male, but if the control circuitry says it's female...

 

[Cute Tink]

OK, so trans woman, does that mean you start out with a penis or a vagina?

Trans woman = male to female trans person.

And if you don't use your main sex part, how do you [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]?

Under the basis that you must [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]? Depending on the severity of the dysphoria, a person might simply not [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] at all. For the record, nobody except medical people have seen or touched that area in a very long time and nobody will.

Not sure if it's allowed conversation, certainly not my business, but ya threw it out there and I am quite the curious one. So answer as you wish please.

Seemed like the point was failing to get across. The only reason I decided to go that route.

I'm aware of gender dysphoria. Not sure how to spell it apparently, but aware of the condition.

Good.

And if y'all aren't trying to redefine words, please tell us what y'all are trying to do. Because calling Jenner a she when he clearly has all hardware of a he, sure seems like some redefining of the language.

There is more than one definition of what makes a person male or female. In this case, male or female refers to the identified gender of the person, not the birth sex.

 

[Cute Tink]

Ok cutetink, explain those laws. Because if they allow people with penises to go into a ladies bathroom, I understand those laws quite well.

People who identify as men are not allowed to go into the women's bathroom under those laws.

 

[Armoured]

Ok cutetink, explain those laws. Because if they allow people with penises to go into a ladies bathroom, I understand those laws quite well.

And people with vaginas to go into men's rooms.

Strange how the transgender discussion always seems to fall back into the "men going into women's bathrooms" narrative. Much the same way discussions about homosexuality always simmer down to concerns about anal sex.

 

[Smidlee]

...and study it, and work out treatments for it, and diagnose it, and have conferences about it... seriously, it's a real thing. As real as any other medical condition you care to name. Fortunately, these days the medical establishment offers care where it's needed, whether certain conditions exist that make non-sufferers uncomfortable or not.

Sin ,spirit, soul , mind,etc are all real. So are you claiming there is a cure so a person doesn't have to live a lie any longer thinking they are something they aren't. I do believe there is hope as Jesus Christ can heal them.

 

[Armoured]

Trans woman = male to female trans person.

I may have meant "trans-man". I still get them backwards sometimes.

 

[Armoured]

Sin ,spirit, soul , mind,etc are all real. So are you claiming there is a cure so a person doesn't have to live a lie any longer thinking they are something they aren't. I do believe there is hope as Jesus Christ can heal them.

A "cure"? I don't think anyone claims that. There are, however, clinically efficacious therapies.

Why are you so determined to see this as a matter of "lying"? There's no conscious choice involved, transgender people simply are. It's as immoral as suffering any other medical condition.

 

[Smidlee]

A "cure"? I don't think anyone claims that. There are, however, clinically efficacious therapies.

Why are you so determined to see this as a matter of "lying"? There's no conscious choice involved, transgender people simply are. It's as immoral as suffering any other medical condition.

If I believe I'm something I'm not then I'm deceiving myself. This sin is more common that most realize ... pride. Every one of us has something serious wrong with us. Jesus is the Great Healer and The Truth.

 

[Armoured]

If I believe I'm something I'm not then I'm deceiving myself. This sin is more common that most realize ... pride.

But they ARE what they believe themselves to be. Mentally. Why are you so beholden to the dictates of their physical gender? Why is that more important than their mental gender?

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

He does have all the hardware of a male. Sticking with the analogy, the software make him think he's should be a she.

A PC that thinks it's a server is still a PC until you redo the hardware to make it a server.

 

[Smidlee]

But they ARE what they believe themselves to be. Mentally. Why are you so beholden to the dictates of their physical gender? Why is that more important than their mental gender?

Why do you think someone can mental be something that they are not?

 

[Cute Tink]

I may have meant "trans-man". I still get them backwards sometimes.

That's alright. I know you are trying to be correct in terms.

 

[Cute Tink]

Why do you think someone can mental be something that they are not.

Why do you think that a person's gender cannot be different than their physical sex?