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Every faith claims to have the truth about God. i.e. Christians claim Christ to be God, who seeks that all come to Salvation through His name alone. Muslims claim to be the only way to God, stating that only those who believe in Allah will make it to heaven. Then you have groups like the Bahi who believe that all religions are the truth, or contain truth. They are multi religion. But really it is just another religion, they don't believe exactly what was shown to the various religions, as they all stated "we are the only way". Religion just follows book and people.
 
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I've noted it, but not fully comprehended it.
See also many varieties of syncretic or otherwise "fused" religions where elements of one religion become embedded or absorbed into another without, at least to the believers and practitioners of said religion, any difficulty or contradiction.

My provisional thought is that, for many, the actual formal and overt theological content of a religion is far from the most important thing, and that tradition, familiarity, community and unity, and the emotional power of ritual and ceremony are the key things sought and found. The actual concepts of deity or spirituality are not critical nor are they critically examined.

Terry Pratchett addresses this (and quite a lot else) in "Small Gods" where for a major religion it turns out that its adherents have great belief in the presence and power of the church and its institutions, not least The Inquisition, to the point where the detail that there was an actual god behind the institutions, and the reason for them, has almost totally been forgotten.

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Can you be multi-faith?

Why would someone be multi faith?

I ask because I have heard of people being of multiple religions and do not really understand.

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I've know of people who are like this as well. There is a term, "cafeteria religion", which I think explains it well. A person takes a little of this and a little of that as if he is filling his tray in a cafeteria.

Getting practical, can you be Christian Muslim, for example? The answer has to be, no. These two religions have mutually exclusive teachings. That's the major issue with people who say they are multiple religions, mutually exclusive teachings.

At they end of the day, this person claiming to hold to multiple religions is himself the deity. He is creating a god in his own image. I would argue that this is the default mode of the human heart. We all do this to some degree; although it is perhaps much more subtle in most people. Have you ever heard someone say, "I like to think of God as (fill in the blank)"? Imagine if someone who didn't know you said, I like to think of you as a skier, but you have never skied in your life! How well does that person know you? This is the same thing we run into with people claiming to hold to multiple regions. They either don't know the regions they claim to follow or they ignore the facts and create their new religion of me, me, me.
 
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Getting practical, can you be Christian Muslim, for example? The answer has to be, no. These two religions have mutually exclusive teachings. That's the major issue with people who say they are multiple religions, mutually exclusive teachings...

That's exactly right measuring by what you, and I, would, the statements on the nature of reality, how the world actually is, to be accepted (or not), as facts.

This doesn't seem to be the framework of thought in operation in such cases, and mostly that is where I am left stumped. I can't see how to leave out the "but is it true?" question and faced with incompatible accounts, apart from addressing fuzziness in language and concept on the outside change of complementarity applying, a smorgasboard approach seems a dire one, unless the operating factor is: "I like that, and this makes me feel good." But then, acting effectively as judge *over* texts and doctrines, yes,
... this person claiming to hold to multiple religions is himself the deity..
...having the right to rule and to choose. It wouldn't work so well in any other area: "Oh the law on speeding doesn't appeal... I'll leave that out of my world view."

Have you ever heard someone say, "I like to think of God as (fill in the blank)"? ... They either don't know the regions they claim to follow or they ignore the facts and create their new religion of me, me, me.

I hear it regularly, and while it may be a poorly thought-out individual, quite often this "fuzzy view" comes pre-packaged from an existing congregation or religion. Noting also the "itching ears" effect where, with increased ease of transport people have far more opportunity to find a church or congregation that "suits them".
But is "suiting people " the correct goal for a church anyway?
I minister I knew used to say "If lots of people walk out of your sermons you are doing it wrong. If no-one ever walks out of your sermons you are doing it wrong."

Chris.
 
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Can you be multi-faith?

Why would someone be multi faith?

I ask because I have heard of people being of multiple religions and do not really understand.

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It is possible, but not in the traditional Christian mindset. I've seen the following examples most frequently:

1) Someone views all religions (or several) as holding truth, just with different packaging involved.
2) Eastern religions typically don't hold to the idea of "religious monopoly": one can be a Buddhist and Shinto believer just fine.
3) Sometimes a person will hold onto the cultural traditions of one faith, while holding the theological views of another. For example, someone holds Protestant faith, but Catholic culture.
4) There are cases when someone claims two contradictory faiths because they either don't know the contradictions, don't agree with "official" interpretations, or see things a different way so they are not contradictory.
 
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Can you be multi-faith?

Why would someone be multi faith?

I ask because I have heard of people being of multiple religions and do not really understand.

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I see no reason why someone can't be multi-faith no one has a monopoly on truth.
 
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Can you be multi-faith?

Why would someone be multi faith?

I ask because I have heard of people being of multiple religions and do not really understand.

When I was an undergraduate I met the Dr. Raimon Panikkar the late Catholic theologian. His mother was Catholic and his father was Hindu. He considered himself both. I asked him, "but why Catholic and Hindu? Why not Muslim and Buddhist?" He said "Americans like to marry the girl they love. We Indians love the girl we marry." And with a twinkle in his eye, he noted Indian marriages last longer.
 
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Muslims claim to be the only way to God, stating that only those who believe in Allah will make it to heaven.

Muslims acknowledge that plenty of people believe in Allah who are not Muslims:

" Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve." Qur'an 2:62

Then you have groups like the Bahi who believe that all religions are the truth, or contain truth. They are multi religion. But really it is just another religion

We have always claimed to be an independent religion.

they don't believe exactly what was shown to the various religions, as they all stated "we are the only way".

As I've already shown Islam is not nearly as exclusive as you imagine Christianity to be.
 
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Then you have groups like the Bahi who believe that all religions are the truth, or contain truth. They are multi religion. But really it is just another religion, they don't believe exactly what was shown to the various religions, as they all stated "we are the only way". Religion just follows book and people.

I think that for most of us Baha'is we see past religions in context and over a long period of time... We use the term cycles and dispensations. We believe there is only one religion of God that has appeared at various times and under the guise of various cultures of the past...but spiritually they are one.

There is one God; mankind is one; the foundations of religion are one. Let us worship Him, and give praise for all His great Prophets and Messengers who have manifested His brightness and glory.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 20)

It is to us understandable that the statement "we are the only way" can be in context for it's own period or age, in other words, for His time Jesus Christ as Mediator and Manifestation was the only Way.
 
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I think that for most of us Baha'is we see past religions in context and over a long period of time... We use the term cycles and dispensations. We believe there is only one religion of God that has appeared at various times and under the guise of various cultures of the past...but spiritually they are one.

Exactly. We view the scriptures of other religions the same way Christians view the Tanakh.
 
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Pannikar is one of my favorites... I encourage my friends to read "The Vedic Experience Mantramanjari"!

When he came to speak at my class at UC Santa Cruz a bunch of evangelicals started attacking him using Acts 4:12 (there is no name under which . . .) I immediately started looking through Revelation for the reference to the New Name. Pannikar took the Bible from my hand and read the precise verse I was looking up.
 
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hey i just noticed smneck you have your faith listed as Baha'i they finally let you put that down as your faith?
Yeah, the contacted me privately and volunteered to do it. Awesome, huh? I just asked them for nine-pointed start, but that may be pushing it. ;)
 
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I think you can mix other faiths but if you want to be a Christian know that you will only be a Christian. Our God is a jealous one. He will not share a believer with other things

He is said to be jealous of other gods. I suppose He is jealous of other things, as well, money, power, etc. I don't think He is terribly interested in what club you belong to.
 
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