We're in the end of days

[parousia70]

Most impact probability zones would be the Northern Hemisphere.

That is why isaiah mentions what is the commotion from the North and no stragglers coming from there because all is destroyed.

Oh yeah... the one of 2 Hemispheres where it's ALWAYS MIDDAY somewhere in it.

PT Barnum would be proud.

 

[keras]

Midday where?... isn't it always midday somewhere?

Can't you read? The Middle East region.

And you, Berean 777, would do well to actually be a Berean and see what the Prophetic Word actually says, instead of silly speculations.

 

[Berean777]

Can't you read? The Middle East region.

And you, Berean 777, would do well to actually be a Berean and see what the Prophetic Word actually says, instead of silly speculations.

Oh ok sorry I'm all ears.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The particles mostly bang off the Van Allen belts, and the radiation gets attenuated making its way through the atmosphere.

That sounds most excellent! I'd like to see the Van Allen belts and the attenuated radiation that makes it's way through the atmosphere.

So the net effect is no matter how you'd like for the Bible to be talking about CMEs, neutron bombs, holograms projected onto the sky, any of that cool End Times stuff, it isn't.

I wonder what will the hologram be of? Will it be of the great red dragon, the antichrist? Will we be able to take a picture of it?

That's kind of like saying a massive interstellar duck is going to fulfill the Lord's wrath.

That's good material. Not just any ordinary interstellar duck but a massive interstellar duck. Well, if we're headed to Halifax in a hand basket, might as well duck and cover.

 

[keras]

Here's the question everyone should know the answer to:
For the great Day of the wrath of Almighty God and the Lamb has come and who can stand? Revelation 6:17

Just to help those who have difficulty reading what their Bibles actually say: Revelation 13:10, Revelation 14:12, 1 Peter 2:7-8, 1 Peter 1:5, Hebrews 4:3, Galatians 3:9, Romans 5:1, Daniel 6:23, Psalms 32:6-7

 

[parousia70]

Can't you read? The Middle East region.

My apologies... I thought you were describing some sort of world wide event, not a localized one.

 

[keras]

My apologies... I thought you were describing some sort of world wide event, not a localized one.

That is where this blast from the sun will strike initially, then as the earth revolves, all the world will be affected.
Disbelief and scoffing in this scenario, is a denial of the truth of scripture. Plain as that!

 

[Goatee]

Some people read into things in the wrong way!

 

[parousia70]

That is where this blast from the sun will strike initially, then as the earth revolves, all the world will be affected.
Disbelief and scoffing in this scenario, is a denial of the truth of scripture. Plain as that!

Rather, Holy Scripture teaches that the world will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)
Disbelief and scoffing in this scenario, is a denial of the truth of scripture. Plain as that!

 

[Jipsah]

What you fail to understand, Jipsah, is the CME the Lord will use on His Day of wrath, will be of unprecedented magnitude.

Oh good grief! Let's have just one cogent moment here, and admit that Scripture says not on single solitary word about any CME! None! It's something that your made up, not really knowing what they were talking about, and have now made a part of their Scripture, acting as though the Bible spoke of any such thing. Sheer lunacy!

CME's DO flash brightly

Nope. Unless you're talking about the the aurora, which is a far cry from the sun getting brighter. Nonsense.

they DO eject EMP radiation

A CME is an ejection, of both particles and radiation. EMP means "electro magnetic pulse", which simply means a burst of EM energy. That includes all energy from DC to daylight, so we're surrounded by "EMP radiation" all the time, and experience "EMPs" of some magnitude or the other all the time. So sorry, your statement is meaningless.

Then the main mass consisting of superheated hydrogen arrives about 24 hours later. It WILL literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the Lord's Day of wrath.

How does that hydrogen remain superheated through its passage in space? No radiant losses? It's gonna transit 8 light minutes over a period of 24 hours and stay superheated? And not going to dissipate at all? When they've never been observed to behave in any such way before? Is this, then, a miraculous CME?

Otherwise, where are we?

Best I can tell with you saying that the Bible tells us that the earth will be hit by a miraculous CME that doesn't behave like any CME before or since. And that is, as best I can tell, related in the 5th chapter of 3rd John.

Make it up as you go, that's the DF mantra!

Would you prefer to just ignore the prophesies? If so, why are you here?

No prophecy says anything even remotely like what you're nattering about. It's made up. So yes, I ignore that part y'all have made up, and rightly so. But then again, most of DF is made up, and then the Scripture "interpreted" try and make it appear that it has something to do with the Bible, when in fact it does not.

 

[Jipsah]

What she says paints a fairly accurate picture of a CME albeit a massive one.

Accurate except for the part of not doing any of the stuff she claims. The lion is just like a duck except for its head, legs, wings, tail, and body.

Nothing in the Bible that says God will not use natural phenomena to accomplish His purposes.

Nothing in the Bible says anything about CMEs, either. Just another made-up DF article of faith.

 

[Jipsah]

Can't you read? The Middle East region.

And you, Berean 777, would do well to actually be a Berean and see what the Prophetic Word actually says, instead of silly speculations.

I'd be keen to see that reference to CMEs that y'all have managed to find in Scripture. Is that the same version of the Bible that had changed all the references to sin offerings in Ezekiel to say something else? Looks kinda like what the JWs did to 1st John in their New World Translation.

 

[Jipsah]

That sounds most excellent! I'd like to see the Van Allen belts and the attenuated radiation that makes it's way through the atmosphere.

Van was the guy who provided the belts to keep the particles out. There was some earlier discussion about whether it was to be particles or participles, so the decision was made (I'll use passive voice when I feel like it, dadgummit!) to make it keep out both, at least in Asian countries.

I wonder what will the hologram be of? Will it be of the great red dragon, the antichrist? Will we be able to take a picture of it?

Only with permission of the copyright holder.

That's good material. Not just any ordinary interstellar duck but a massive interstellar duck.

I could have done a supermassive duck if I'd wanted to, but I don't like to show off unnecessarily. I figured a regular Massive Interstellar Duck would suffice for this argument. Of course, the DFs deny the existence of the duck, but Scripture Clearly Teaches that God will use a specially modified fire breathing MID to execute His wrath against the unrighteous (i.e., anyone who doesn't agree with DF doctrine). Anyone who denies this is clearly ignorant of any prophecy at all (including those of St. Cledus the Underhanded and Nostradamus Jr., who took over the prophet business from his dad but who lacked the management skills to be successful) will certainly be doomed for all eternity to the sleaziest neighborhood in perdition.

Well, if we're headed to Halifax in a hand basket, might as well duck and cover.

Three pointer!

 

[Jipsah]

Zap

 

[keras]

My Bible, that I trust as the most accurate translation available, is the Revised English Bible, Oxford Press 1989. I see a lot of error and poor translation in the ESV used on this forum.
Here are some of the verses that can only be literally explained by a Coronal mass Ejection, instigated by the Lord.
A Day of Vengeance and Wrath [a literal 24 hour Day]
Deuteronomy 32:41-43 I will prepare My flashing sword and take vengeance on those who hate Me. My sword will devour flesh and My arrows will be drunk with blood. I will avenge the slain of My people and cleanse their Land.
Isaiah 2:12-21 The Lord has a Day of doom in store...all the proud will be brought low.
Zephaniah 1:15-16 The Day of the Lord’s wrath is a Day of anguish and torment, of cloud and darkness, of destruction and devastation and a Day of military defeats.
Isaiah 33:14 Sinners in the Land quake with terror, can anyone live in this devouring fire?
Joel 1:15 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a mighty destruction from Almighty God.
Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise, I will exalt Myself. My enemies will be as chaff and stubble, a fiery wind will consume them. Whole nations will become as heaps of ash.
Isaiah 63:1-6 Who is this coming from Edom?.... in power and victory....I trampled the nations in My anger, their blood stained My garments. I resolved on a Day of vengeance, the year for redeeming My own had come.
Revelation 14:14-16 ...there appeared a Man wearing a gold crown and with a sickle in His hand. He swept over the earth with His sickle and the earth was reaped.
Isaiah 66:15-17 The Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind, many will be slain by Him.
Isaiah 29:6 Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, earthquakes and flames of devouring fire.
Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, His sword will test mankind. Many will be slain. Those who do magic and eat unclean things will all meet their end.
Micah 5:15 In anger and fury, I shall wreak vengeance on the nations who disobey Me.
Psalms 50:3 Our God is coming, a consuming fire and a raging storm.
Habakkuk 3:12 Furiously You traverse the earth, in anger You trample down the nations.
Isaiah 59:15-18 The Lord was displeased...outraged... so He put on garments of vengeance. According to their wicked deeds, He will repay.

Isaiah 30:26-30.....the sun will shine seven times stronger and the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty, with His arm descending in fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid lightning flashes and hail storms.
Psalms 144:5-6 Lord, part the heavens, make lightning flashes far and wide.
Isaiah 34:4...the sky will be rolled up like a scroll...
Revelation 6:14 The sky vanished, like a scroll being rolled up, and violent earthquakes.....
2 Peter 3:10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. On that Day, the sky will dissolve and the earth will be enveloped in flames, all mankind will be judged.
Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all evildoers will be stubble.
Hebrews 10:27..... a terrifying judgement of fire that will consume God’s enemies.
Psalms 21:8-9 Your Hand will reach all Your enemies, fire will totally consume them.
2 Thessalonians 1:7..when the Lord is revealed from heaven, with His mighty angels in blazing fire.
Zechariah 9:14 The Lord will appear over them, His arrows will flash like lightning.
Psalms 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven, raining fiery coals down upon the wicked.
Isaiah 9:18-19 The land is scorched by the Lord, the people are fuel for the fire.
Ezekiel 20:46-47...I am about to kindle a fire in the Negev, its fiery flame will burn everyone to the North. Reference: Revised English Bible, some verses abridged

 

[Jipsah]

Here are some of the verses that can only be literally explained by a Coronal mass Ejection, instigated by the Lord.

<Laugh> "Literally" if you assume that a CME will do whatever you think it ought to do to fulfill any given Scripture. If someone says "CMEs don't do that", the response is easy "This one will!". Shazam! Any reference to fire, or wrath, or lightning, or smoke, or heat, or a sword, or anything else the Lord is said to do in His anger, is automatically a CME. So of course, you can say "The Bible says God will send a CME and..." because that covers everything God might want to do, wrath-wise.

For my part, I've always thought it was silly to sit around trying to "explain" how God was going to do anything. After all, He managed to create the universe by simply commanding it to be. Seems to me like He could toast a few sinners with just a sidelong glance, or a very brief thought. But if you like pseudo-scientific "explanations" of how God does stuff, feel free. At least it's harmless, which is more than can be said of Dispensational Futurist doctrine as a whole.

 

[civilwarbuff]

<Laugh> "Literally" if you assume that a CME will do whatever you think it ought to do to fulfill any given Scripture. If someone says "CMEs don't do that", the response is easy "This one will!". Shazam! Any reference to fire, or wrath, or lightning, or smoke, or heat, or a sword, or anything else the Lord is said to do in His anger, is automatically a CME. So of course, you can say "The Bible says God will send a CME and..." because that covers everything God might want to do, wrath-wise.

For my part, I've always thought it was silly to sit around trying to "explain" how God was going to do anything. After all, He managed to create the universe by simply commanding it to be. Seems to me like He could toast a few sinners with just a sidelong glance, or a very brief thought. But if you like pseudo-scientific "explanations" of how God does stuff, feel free. At least it's harmless, which is more than can be said of Dispensational Futurist doctrine as a whole.

I made this post a few days ago....you danced around it.....wanna try again?

What she says paints a fairly accurate picture of a CME albeit a massive one. Nothing in the Bible that says God will not use natural phenomena to accomplish His purposes.
History
First traces
The largest recorded geomagnetic perturbation, resulting presumably from a CME, coincided with the first-observed solar flare on 1 September 1859, and is now referred to as the Carrington Event, or the solar storm of 1859. The flare and the associated sunspots were visible to the naked eye (both as the flare itself appearing on a projection of the sun on a screen and as an aggregate brightening of the solar disc), and the flare was independently observed by English astronomers R. C. Carrington and R. Hodgson. The geomagnetic storm was observed with the recording magnetograph at Kew Gardens. The same instrument recorded a crochet, an instantaneous perturbation of Earth's ionosphere by ionizing soft X-rays. This could not easily be understood at the time because it predated the discovery of X-rays by Röntgen and the recognition of the ionosphere by Kennelly and Heaviside. The storm took down parts of the recently created US telegraph network, starting fires and shocking some telegraph operators.[8]
Historical records were collected and new observations recorded in annual summaries by the Astronomical Society of the Pacific between 1953 and 1960.[18] From Wikipedia

Earth/Sky
But the 1989 storm is nothing compared to the geomagnetic storm of 1859. Known as the Carrington Event, after amateur astronomer Richard Carrington who observed the flares that triggered the storm, it is the most powerful geomagnetic storm ever recorded. Aurora were observed as far south as Hawai’i and the Caribbean. Witnesses at higher latitudes reported being able to read newspapers by the light of the aurora alone. Telegraph networks around globe catastrophically failed; operators received shocks and telegraph paper caught on fire. http://earthsky.org/space/what-are-coronal-mass-ejections

 

[civilwarbuff]

<Laugh> "Literally" if you assume that a CME will do whatever you think it ought to do to fulfill any given Scripture. If someone says "CMEs don't do that", the response is easy "This one will!". Shazam! Any reference to fire, or wrath, or lightning, or smoke, or heat, or a sword, or anything else the Lord is said to do in His anger, is automatically a CME. So of course, you can say "The Bible says God will send a CME and..." because that covers everything God might want to do, wrath-wise.

For my part, I've always thought it was silly to sit around trying to "explain" how God was going to do anything. After all, He managed to create the universe by simply commanding it to be. Seems to me like He could toast a few sinners with just a sidelong glance, or a very brief thought. But if you like pseudo-scientific "explanations" of how God does stuff, feel free. At least it's harmless, which is more than can be said of Dispensational Futurist doctrine as a whole.

You might want to go back to emperor worship....it probably suits you better....

 

[civilwarbuff]

You might want to go back to emperor worship....it probably suits you better....

Sorry....that was a little over the top.....

 

[Armoured]

...and God COULD hit us with a nearby gamma ray burster. But is there any reason tothink He is LIKELY to in the near future?