Your stand on homosexuality?

[ActionJ]

Yup, they're still God's children after all...and we're in need of Christ as much as them for we are born out of sin, ''For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of heaven'' -Romans 3:23

We're all in the same boat...homosexual or not. We all need the love and grace of Christ in order to be saved. That cannot change...

All true statements but we also can't forget that we're all called to repentance. Repentance is actually required under the New Covenant. Christ's blood is not a license to continue in habitual sin.

2 Corinthians 7:9-10, "Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."

Acts 2:38, "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Mark 1:15, "And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."

Nowhere in Scripture does Christ or the Apostles say: "Well ... since homosexuals were 'born that way' it's perfectly fine to continue in that particular sin."

Romans 1:27, "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

1 Corinthians 6:9, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

Jude 1:7, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

It's no longer vogue for many modern churches to discuss the consequences of unrepentant sin and that place called hell (or the "h" word). Hell is just as real as Heaven is and many there be walking the path that leads to it.

Matthew 7:13-14, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

 

[Cachook]

All true statements but we also can't forget that we're all called to repentance. Repentance is actually required under the New Covenant. Christ's blood is not a license to continue in habitual sin.

2 Corinthians 7:9-10, "Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death."

Acts 2:38, "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Mark 1:15, "And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."

Nowhere in Scripture does Christ or the Apostles say: "Well ... since homosexuals were 'born that way' it's perfectly fine to continue in that particular sin."

Romans 1:27, "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

1 Corinthians 6:9, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

Jude 1:7, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

It's no longer vogue for many modern churches to discuss the consequences of unrepentant sin and that place called hell (or the "h" word). Hell is just as real as Heaven is and many there be walking the path that leads to it.

Matthew 7:13-14, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

AMEN! Hallelujah!

 

[Cachook]

True, I think that on the whole the Japanese haven't really been convinced by Christianity (1% of the pop. is Christian, although it has had 8 Christian prime ministers). The Chinese and Koreans (North Koreans included, the oldest Korean Christian Church was founded in Pyongyang) have had far closer and deeper relations with Christianity.

Regarding China, I think we can disregard all the Marxist antagonism of religion because China is not really communist anymore. The Chinese leaders don't really care about your beliefs, as long as you don't cause trouble or disrupt their lavish lifestyle. However the Communist Party is very sceptical about large, centralised religious movements. For example the followers of the Falun Gong, which grew to a massive size, were brutally persecuted and deemed illegal because they were achieving political power.

The Chinese leaders have the same worries about the Christians (Catholics especially), and thus sanction the Catholic Church since they do not want to Pope to appoint bishops. Thus the so called ''Patriotic Church'' has state appointed bishops, which is wholly against Catholicism.

I see what they are doing. Don't trust the RCC, but see what they're doing. Sounds like the elitist mentality at work.

 

[softspokenLamb]

I struggled with this issue once I understood it for the longest time, perhaps since it has received such a glowing report in the liberal media. But recently, I've remembered an important fact: a Christian's faith should not be based on their personal feelings, but in the Word of God. As thus, I return wholeheartedly to the unyielding, unchanging response found in God's Law and Gospel:
Homosexuality, in any way, shape, or form, is a sin against God's design for sex, marriage, and the family. However, that doesn't mean He will reject those who struggle with these thoughts or desires without a second thought. He truly does not like condemning any of us for unforgiven sins. However, unless a person admits that those desires and that lifestyle is sinful, and that forgiveness is found only through Jesus Christ, they remain condemned. If a homosexual person truly wants to live a God-fearing life, they should not encourage or partake in any aspect of a homosexual lifestyle, and if they truly cannot feel desire or love for the opposite sex, then the only course of action is to remain celibate. This may seem impossible, but if Jesus could take away the world's sin, including the sin we are going to commit tomorrow, even if we do not want to do it, then He can strengthen all who ask for His help in the struggle with sin, any sin.
To recap, God's Law has not changed, and will never change. However, Jesus has forgiven us of all sin, including homosexuality. But this does not mean we should speak of it, or any other sin, in a positive light, any more than we should encourage pedophilia, bestiality, or any other of the sexually deviant behaviors sin has brought into the world.

 

[NewEnglandGirl]

Am new to this particular forum and sought it out because it is Christian. Greetings everyone. I personally don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle or accept it as "normal". It is like any other struggle that we have to deal with in this world. I don't advocate "bashing" homosexuals, either verbally or physically. Everyone has their own personal struggle they have to deal with in life. For some it is alcoholism. Others, drug use. Some it is promiscuity or pornography. Because we are all humans and on this earth we all battle these things, sometimes on a daily basis. Being "Christians" does NOT make us perfect. However that does not mean we cannot help others. If one had to be sinless to help others than no one would be able to help anyone else. What does alarm me is the current radical homosexual movement that wants to "in-your-face" everyone and force their lifestyles on everyone else. We have to be strong as Christians and not be goaded into reacting violently. This is precisely what that movement wants so they can justify using yet more force. We must pray for understanding, patience and wisdom in dealing with this current dilemma. Stand fast in the word. Fight the "good fight" daily.

 

[com7fy8]

As the title suggests. Tell me what is your stance on homosexuality.

I believe that:

- Homosexuality is unnatural, but not a choice. It's a problem of the soul (either caused by satan or original sin or both)

Yes, it is a result of being born in sin, with the nature to sin. And in sin all of us chose to do the sins we did. It was a choice. Gays are not some special group who have not been choosing what they do.

By the way, though, Paul says there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience", in Ephesians 2:2. Satan's evil spirit "works" to make people choose evil. The dominating and dictatorial passions of his evil and selfish spirit work very hard!! But God is stronger!!!

So, it is discrimination to make gays different, like they can't be helped and do not need forgiveness like the rest of us. Jesus died for all of us. And Jesus has hope for all of us to be corrected by our Father.

Wrong desires are wrong. So, it is wrong to have wrong preferences, even if we do not act on them. If I have the preference to murder someone, in my heart, I have already done it in my heart. Likewise, if I have a wrong sexual interest, in my heart, this is wrong. We all need how God corrects our hearts to have His interests and desires.

And He cures us with His love's correction of His love's perfection > Hebrews 12:6-11 >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

- Homosexuals should not be discriminated...

Jesus died on Calvary for any and all sinners. So, it is discrimination against homosexuals, to tell people gays do not need forgiveness and correction, and to claim they can not be corrected by God. And to say God can cure a homosexual "if He sees fit" can be discrimination, because our Father is committed to correcting all of us His children, of all sin problems, not only certain ones.

So, yes pedophile predators and mass murder psychopaths can be fully corrected, also, if they trust in Christ (Ephesians 1:12).

But because we were born in sin it has been our nature to continue to have different evil tendencies, and we might experience ourselves to have been "born that way". However . . . God is able to change any of us "from the power of Satan to God" (in Acts 26:18). We all have been in slavery to sin > Romans 6:17. In slavery, we all have been slaves of how Satan's spirit "works in the sons of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2); none of us have been free to change our own selves; "so our choice making was in slavery to Satan".

Therefore, this world's methods have not worked and a lot of "Christian ministry" methods also can not work, because only God is able. Only God can spiritually deliver any of us from emotional problems which are rooted in sin. And all of us and our personalities have been born in sin; so it is "likely" that sin is involved, "somehow", in any personality problem. So, why, if I have a problem, would I first make a point of denying that sin could have anything to do with it?

-...but same-gender marriage and adoption of children for gay couples should not be allowed.

Children need good example. But gays are not the only ones who are not good examples.

- You can be "cured" of homosexuality if it's God's will.

Like I offer, there is no discrimination. God is committed to curing any of us of any and all sin problems. These problems have been of our nature, very convincing us that they can not go away. So, have you discovered how God cures your sin problems??? If you have, you should be able to realize He is able to win in us against any problem, at all. But if we are holding on to emotional problems caused by sin, we might justify that others, also, can't be cured.

But I will offer > emotions have motives, and motives are of the heart's desires, and our hearts are spiritual with roots in the wrong spirit (Ephesians 2:2) or in God's love. If our emotions are selfish and mainly or all about ourselves, this is sinful. Such self-involved passions and ways of reacting have spiritual roots!! And God can cure us so we are "rooted and grounded in love" (Ephesians 3:14-21).

- I've had a bisexual and a gay friend. They only differ by their sexuality, unlike Fundamentalists claim: "THEY ARE ALL PEDOPHILES!!! THEY RAPE OUR CHILDREN!!!!!".

According to legally approved medical writing that I have seen, a "definition homosexual" is one who prefers sensual sharing with another consenting adult of the same gender. Therefore, by proper medical and legal definition, a homosexual is not a pedophile, because a legally and medically defined pedophile is one who prefers sensual pleasure with a child. And a Biblical fundie claims that we are not to bear false witness. So, please be careful about making a general statement that "Fundamentalists" say that "gays" rape children . . . especially if you have not been a legal witness to what all "gays" do and what every fundie says. I consider myself to be a fundie, and I think I do not match with your representation In the United States, we who uphold the Constitution presume any person innocent until and if the person has been legally proven guilty. But we have posters here who are not Americans, and who have not come to uphold the U.S. Constitution, because of their cultural upbringing.

Notice how I did not say "sexual" sharing. Gay stuff is not sexual, but preference for how to get pleasure. And weakness for foolish pleasure is also weakness making us ready to suffer various sorts of pain and torments in our personality.

Truly sexual behavior means seeking to reproduce children for God. Being truly sexual includes being a good example who helps children be God's way, so we are reproducing children for Him. So, gay stuff is anti-sexual. Also, arguing and complaining, are anti-good example; so complaining and arguing are also anti-sexual . . . against reproducing children of God and how His love corrects us to become as His children.

"But did He not make them one,
.Having a remnant of the Spirit?
.And why one?
.He seeks godly offspring.
.Therefore take heed to our spirit,
.And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth."
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Malachi 2:15)

"Do all things without complaining and disputing, that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, holding fast the word of life, so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or labored in vain." (Philippians 2:14-16)

Complaining and arguing, then, are wrong . . . ways of dealing "treacherously" with each other, and being treacherous examples to our children. So, by being a bad example, these are against producing children of God. So, instead of just pointing the finger at the bad example of gays, we need to look at our own selves, and seek our Father for His correction bringing His love's perfection (Hebrews 12:6-11, 1 John 4:17-18).

So, now we have something good to do, today

God bless you, too

Bill

 

[Kristin E]

I can't say its MY stand on homosexuality, but its Gods stand. I as a christian who loves the Lord have to side with God, and God said its an abomination.
I love the person, but I abhor the sin, in that being said I will say this though - sometimes in my opinion there are outside forces that can contribute to it all.
I believe in demons, demonic oppression, and possession, and I also believe that past abuses can play a key role.
I can't say they will go to hell as I'm not the judge, but I will say this - a Christian will want to live their life for God even if that means renouncing their homosexuality.

 

[Enahs4Him]

As a person who had been in homosexual relationships, I must say it is a sin. Paul states this clearly in Romans and First Corinthians. BUT, Jesus loves the homosexual and wants him/her to walk in sexual purity. Give your heart to Jesus and He can do wonders. God is still working on me. I still struggle, but I am an overcomer! And I must say, walking in His Truth, I feel more fulfilled than I ever have in my life. I have His Peace! No man could ever do that!

 

[Thunder Peel]

I believe it's a sin and, like any other, can be forgiven and overcome only through the blood of Jesus Christ. The Bible is clear on where God stands on this issue and we must be both vigilant and loving in our response to an ever-declining culture.

 

[mmksparbud]

I've had many friends who were gay--both male and female. The best waiter, the best bus boy (I've owned a couple restaurants and worked in several) I ever saw were gay. I've known several in the medical field and I've liked every one of them. I saw them go through their relationship troubles, just like regular folk. Fall in love, break ups, so on. No different. Me and a girlfriend would go out on double dates with her cousin--who was gay and with a live in partner. I guess most people saw us as two heterosexual couples. My friend and I are not gay--but we enjoyed their company and she had grown up with her cousin.
I feel a lot of sympathy for them. But God says the act is a sin, so as for my view, it is one that conforms to the bible, which means they would have to be celibate---a very hard choice to make, one that not even dedicated priests can endure (gay or not). But just what is someone, who doesn't believe in God, supposed to do when they are this way? There are good and bad people in all aspects of life, and there are good, moral people who are gay, they don't steal, cheat, so on--they are just gay. But without a deep love for God, who can change their makeup, and why would they?? They love just as deeply as we do, hurt just as deeply when they break up. And I am talking about love, not the sex act. There are those that do believe in God, but don't feel they need to change that aspect of their lives. I can understand their reasoning, but can not agree because God says no.
We inherit all sorts of things, from temper, to alcoholism and other addictive tendencies, including eating. We have a God that tells us how we are to act, and that there are aspects to our personalities that require work--so, it is to those who overcome that the gift of eternal life goes to. The gift is free, we do nothing to earn it, but scripture is as clear on overcoming as it is on not engaging in the homosexual act. If you are born an alcoholic, you don't have to keep drinking, even though you will always be one. If you've naturally got a bad temper, you have to learn to not give in to it. We all have a cross to bear--for some it is heavier than others. But, that is what God is there for--help with the burden. God is not going to go on a diet so you can loose weight. And being fat is no less a sin then being gay---just can't hide it as you can other sins. The bible condemns gluttony, but we have many fat preachers. It was, after all, on the point of eating that we first fell. We have to eat, we don't have to have sex. But self control with the Holy Sirit is what can help---or drugs and surgery!!!

 

[Norm d'Plume]

But this does not mean we should speak of it, or any other sin, in a positive light, any more than we should encourage pedophilia, bestiality, or any other of the sexually deviant behaviors sin has brought into the world.

It would be so much easier to have a rational dialogue over this issue if people didn't keep comparing homosexuality to pedophilia or f*cking their puppies.

What does alarm me is the current radical homosexual movement that wants to "in-your-face" everyone and force their lifestyles on everyone else.

Maybe they became radicalized because they were routinely bullied, beaten, or killed for being gay; were prevented from seeing a dying partner in a hospital because they weren't considered family; couldn't adopt children into loving homes; lost their housing, jobs, and health insurance because of their orientation; were discarded and made homeless by their own Christian families; committed suicide because they were outed by someone, or because they couldn't succeed with gay-to-straight conversion therapy, or because no matter how much they prayed, they couldn't stop having gay thoughts.

Radical Muslims have found a unique solution: push gays off tall buildings. And, if they survive that, stone them to death.

While I personally would love to allow religious business owners to refuse to serve gays because of religious beliefs, I don't know how to reconcile that with the right of all Americans to be treated equally. How is a sign that says "No Gays" any different from "No Blacks"? The very same Bible that was once used to justify slavery is now being used to justify homophobia.

Most Christians no longer argue that blasphemers be put to death. Nor those who work on the Sabbath. Nor those who fail to honor their parents. Why is there no similar passion for or against the Bible's many calls for stoning (http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Stoning)? What is it about those few versus about homosexuality that gets some Christians so worked up? Surely, there are better things to hate in this world.

If I had only one extra place at my table and had to choose whom to give it to - Jesus or a Godless homosexual - I would give it to the homosexual. And then I would stand up and give my place to the Lord. But you have to really understand the true meaning of the Bible to learn to do that. Being able to quote chapter and verse isn't enough.

God bless.
Norm

 

[Norm d'Plume]

And being fat is no less a sin then being gay---just can't hide it as you can other sins. The bible condemns gluttony, but we have many fat preachers. It was, after all, on the point of eating that we first fell. We have to eat, we don't have to have sex. But self control with the Holy Sirit is what can help---or drugs and surgery!!!

I used to react the way most people do when I saw someone morbidly obese - Wow, he/she must really like to eat! That was until the Lord taught me an important lesson. He gave me inflammation in my body that makes my feet swell up every time I try to walk enough to lose weight. He also gave me severe pain in my stomach and esophagus that becomes unbearable if I try to skip meals. Then he gave me severe depression that made me crave comfort foods. I went from a 165 pound marathon runner to a chair bound 225 pound old-before-my time man with a failing liver and astronomical triglycerides.

Now when I see someone who is morbidly obese, or when I see a fat preacher, I don't think of the Bible's condemnation of gluttony. Instead, I say to myself: I wonder how much he/she is suffering.

There but for the grace of God...

Norm

 

[mmksparbud]

It would be so much easier to have a rational dialogue over this issue if people didn't keep comparing homosexuality to pedophilia or f*cking their puppies.



Maybe they became radicalized because they were routinely bullied, beaten, or killed for being gay; were prevented from seeing a dying partner in a hospital because they weren't considered family; couldn't adopt children into loving homes; lost their housing, jobs, and health insurance because of their orientation; were discarded and made homeless by their own Christian families; committed suicide because they were outed by someone, or because they couldn't succeed with gay-to-straight conversion therapy, or because no matter how much they prayed, they couldn't stop having gay thoughts.

Radical Muslims have found a unique solution: push gays off tall buildings. And, if they survive that, stone them to death.

While I personally would love to allow religious business owners to refuse to serve gays because of religious beliefs, I don't know how to reconcile that with the right of all Americans to be treated equally. How is a sign that says "No Gays" any different from "No Blacks"? The very same Bible that was once used to justify slavery is now being used to justify homophobia.

Most Christians no longer argue that blasphemers be put to death. Nor those who work on the Sabbath. Nor those who fail to honor their parents. Why is there no similar passion for or against the Bible's many calls for stoning (http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Stoning)? What is it about those few versus about homosexuality that gets some Christians so worked up? Surely, there are better things to hate in this world.

If I had only one extra place at my table and had to choose whom to give it to - Jesus or a Godless homosexual - I would give it to the homosexual. And then I would stand up and give my place to the Lord. But you have to really understand the true meaning of the Bible to learn to do that. Being able to quote chapter and verse isn't enough.

God bless.
Norm

There is no place for hatred of the homosexual. There is no place for bullying of anyone, no matter who or what they are. These militant anti-homos with their signs out in front of churches stating to hate them and so on is totally wrong. I don't think the above post meant that homosexuality and beastiality and pedophilia are all the same--I think it was meant that the act should not be condoned any more than those acts, which are prohibited also in the bible.
Homosexuality may be now considered another lifestyle by the medical community, they must understand that in religious communities, it is not. The other sexual problems are not considered a normal part of life even by the gay community. We must balance the rights of others with concerns for the innocents. Children, and other helpless ones, need to be protected from ANY kind of harm. I do not understand how baking a wedding cake for a gay couple, when your business is selling cakes to the public, is in any way a problem for a Christian. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't get it. They are now legal, and like it or not--they have their legal rights, too. If, as a Christian, you are against masturbation, then you shouldn't sell to them, either---just to carry it further. Did they refuse to make a wedding cake for the couple that married after leaving their spouses due to their adultery? After all, adultery was punishable by stoning also. Are we going to not sell to those couples who are living in sin without marriage---what about selling to those who are promiscuous, having sex outside of any marriage? How far do we go when we're dealing with sinners, where is the line drawn and who draws it?? Where do their rights end and ours take dominance when they are not affecting you at all??

I do like this attitude from the above post.

"If I had only one extra place at my table and had to choose whom to give it to - Jesus or a Godless homosexual - I would give it to the homosexual. And then I would stand up and give my place to the Lord. But you have to really understand the true meaning of the Bible to learn to do that. Being able to quote chapter and verse isn't enough."

 

[mmksparbud]

I used to react the way most people do when I saw someone morbidly obese - Wow, he/she must really like to eat! That was until the Lord taught me an important lesson. He gave me inflammation in my body that makes my feet swell up every time I try to walk enough to lose weight. He also gave me severe pain in my stomach and esophagus that becomes unbearable if I try to skip meals. Then he gave me severe depression that made me crave comfort foods. I went from a 165 pound marathon runner to a chair bound 225 pound old-before-my time man with a failing liver and astronomical triglycerides.

Now when I see someone who is morbidly obese, or when I see a fat preacher, I don't think of the Bible's condemnation of gluttony. Instead, I say to myself: I wonder how much he/she is suffering.

There but for the grace of God...

Norm

I am one of those!! Many medical issues make exercise impossible and my dr wants me to have the surgery. My friend, who is the same height as I am, weighs 95#--soaking wet, after lunch--goes on a mad diet when she hits 100---eats 2-3 times as much as I do. At work, for breakfast, she'd have biscuits, gravy, 3 sausage, 4 bacon, hash browns--with more gravy on the browns, toast with butter and jam--and, of course, non fat milk!! I'd have a small bowl of oatmeal with yoghurt--I could have easily learned to hate her.

 

[RileyG]

I view marriage is between one man and one woman and all sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful. period.

That being said; I do not believe simply being ATTRACTED to the same sex is sinful...just choosing to commit lust/act on it IS.

-Yes, I believe it is the result of the fall...same with inclinations to be judgmental, or too drink to much, or too fornicate, etc.

 

[ken777]

I view marriage is between one man and one woman and all sexual activity outside of marriage is sinful. period.

That being said; I do not believe simply being ATTRACTED to the same sex is sinful...just choosing to commit lust/act on it IS.

-Yes, I believe it is the result of the fall...same with inclinations to be judgmental, or too drink to much, or too fornicate, etc.

I agree with your comments. The difference with homosexuality is that there seems to be quite a strong biological factor shown by the twin studies. This does not mean the behavior should be condoned - it just means the struggle is more difficult, and I believe our Heavenly Father understands that.

 

[ToBeLoved]

My stance is the same as God's. Homosexuals are unregenrates and if God's didn't choose them, draw them and left them in their own sin then thats God's Will. Should Christians go along with God's Will and think God knows best?
To me, I don't care or worry about them cause if God's is happy with His predestinations according to His Own Personal Pleasure then I'm happy with the way things are.

Just leave 'em alone BUT all Christians are instructed to proclaim the Gospel to everyone including them.

How we proclaim the Gospel is a tricky one this this mess up world. The elects don't persuade unregenrates to accept as if they have pure free will. We proclaim the Gospel, not talk them into something they can’t do, save themselves.

I don't know how the Gospel is tricky.

Maybe our knowing the answer's to all their questions about God and the Bible is tricky. But that's why we should all know the Word well.

P.S. I disagree with the Calvanistic approach, but that's another thread.

 

[alexsonofmatthew]

Homosexuality is not a debatable issue within Christianity. The bible is clear on the subject. We should pray and help those people who are perverted.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.


Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Homosexuality is not a debatable issue within Christianity. The bible is clear on the subject. We should pray and help those people who are perverted.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.


Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

However, we know that homosexuality is not an unforgivable sin. All sin can be forgiven by Christ. Period.

 

[alexsonofmatthew]

However, we know that homosexuality is not an unforgivable sin. All sin can be forgiven by Christ. Period.

return to Christ and repent