#WomenAgainstFeminism

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I'd call it real life. The majority of people have sex before marriage and the majority of women have a job. So what?

I'd call it a lack of personal responsibility, considering I am still a virgin, and I'm a guy.

I doubt that feminists would care if conservative men have had enough. Just sayin'.

Well feeling is mutual cause I have absolutely no respect for radical feminists that seem to hate men and/or anyone that is pro-life.
 
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From what I'm getting these aren't getting why feminism was started in the first place. I believe woman were expected to do all the cooking, house work and everything. And if they didn't husband had the right to beat and rape their wife when ever they wanted. I think woman don't know about this, or understand what would happen if woman didn't fight for right.
 
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From what I'm getting these aren't getting why feminism was started in the first place. I believe woman were expected to do all the cooking, house work and everything. And if they didn't husband had the right to beat and rape their wife when ever they wanted. I think woman don't know about this, or understand what would happen if woman didn't fight for right.

That may have been what femanism once was, but it certainly isn't modern femanism. Modern Femanism is all about being pro-abortion and other parts of the Democrat platform (seriously if they weren't they would have been going ballistic over Clinton's sex scandals instead of bashing the women).
 
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That may have been what femanism once was, but it certainly isn't modern femanism. Modern Femanism is all about being pro-abortion and other parts of the Democrat platform .
They're all about protecting woman right. Woman have choices to not have abortions. The modern feminism have no blame if people choose to get abortion. I've known more Christians get abortion, then anyone else. They just keep their mouth shut about them getting abortion and preach their anti abortion nonsense.
 
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I'd call it a lack of personal responsibility, .
And I call it none of nobodies business.



Well feeling is mutual cause I have absolutely no respect for radical feminists that seem to hate men and/or anyone that is pro-life.
I sure the husband beaters didn't either. Also back in the 50,60 woman were dying from illegal abortion. That part of the reason people tried to legalize it.
 
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I'll show by example what my kind of feminism is.

It is Women in Management, one of the student organizations when I was in Grad School, which provided many forums and presentations related to the special issues professional women would face once they graduated. Covering everything from lack of role models to the special problem of a 2 career families. INCLUDING families with children. Oh and to my potential benefit for there was a pretty good chance I would have ended up in such a marriage.

No hint of man hating. I would likely have ended up being an officer in the organization except they went for a 5 person staring committee. I was not comfortable with what would be in effect a shared top spot.

Oh and ladies willing to do the physical labor. But not stupid proud about it. I recall on in particular who was short and often carried in full cases of wine. Not super short, but short enough that trying to lift such to a counter space was exceptionally awkward. No problems asking me to do that last part.

Or a female camp director with the YMCA who was far from pleased that the administrator insisted that then needed a to have a male along on what should have been an all female trip. Good for me! She knew I understood chain of command and knew she was in charge (and she was good at it). Again a balance. First convenient stop (which meant first stop unless racing desert heat) she would have the girls put the back panel back in place. It was a struggle, took 3 or 4 girls several minutes to do a job one brute like me could do in seconds.

But once done she had no problems with using the brute she had on hand. The point was that the girls had to know they could do it, not that they had to refuse any male help.

BTW the girls were as good as any bunch of guys at most if not all camp tasks. What they lacked in physical strength the more than made up for by following directions.

I have no problems with the kind of feminism that basically just says "Don't think I can't just because I'm female". In fact say that and you have this brute to deal with and possible a brute in a very foul mood, for you would have just insulted all the women and girls I mentioned and also my mother (Phi Beta Kappa in Chemistry at UCLA).

You do not want to insult my mother, I am an atavistic brute in a few ways.

EDIT: I have major problems with those who say a woman has to be a job holder, must strive for what was the exclusive (pretty much) domain of men 50-100 year ago. Those who would free women from one set of limits only to impose a new prison on them and denigrate any woman who CHOSE the old roles, or part of the old roles. Those who want to do that are my enemy, both of the liberal part of me and atavistic side of me.
 
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And I call it none of nobodies business.



I sure the husband beaters didn't either. Also back in the 50,60 woman were dying from illegal abortion. That part of the reason people tried to legalize it.

People still die from LEGAL abortions, and not just the babies. It's not the reason for legalization, it's just the appeal to emotion logical fallacy they used.
 
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I'll show by example what my kind of feminism is.

It is Women in Management, one of the student organizations when I was in Grad School, which provided many forums and presentations related to the special issues professional women would face once they graduated. Covering everything from lack of role models to the special problem of a 2 career families. INCLUDING families with children. Oh and to my potential benefit for there was a pretty good chance I would have ended up in such a marriage.

No hint of man hating. I would likely have ended up being an officer in the organization except they went for a 5 person staring committee. I was not comfortable with what would be in effect a shared top spot.

Oh and ladies willing to do the physical labor. But not stupid proud about it. I recall on in particular who was short and often carried in full cases of wine. Not super short, but short enough that trying to lift such to a counter space was exceptionally awkward. No problems asking me to do that last part.

Or a female camp director with the YMCA who was far from pleased that the administrator insisted that then needed a to have a male along on what should have been an all female trip. Good for me! She knew I understood chain of command and knew she was in charge (and she was good at it). Again a balance. First convenient stop (which meant first stop unless racing desert heat) she would have the girls put the back panel back in place. It was a struggle, took 3 or 4 girls several minutes to do a job one brute like me could do in seconds.

But once done she had no problems with using the brute she had on hand. The point was that the girls had to know they could do it, not that they had to refuse any male help.

BTW the girls were as good as any bunch of guys at most if not all camp tasks. What they lacked in physical strength the more than made up for by following directions.

I have no problems with the kind of feminism that basically just says "Don't think I can't just because I'm female". In fact say that and you have this brute to deal with and possible a brute in a very foul mood, for you would have just insulted all the women and girls I mentioned and also my mother (Phi Beta Kappa in Chemistry at UCLA).

You do not want to insult my mother, I am an atavistic brute in a few ways.

That's all well and good, really, I have no argument with it, but I do have an issue with lowering standards so women can get in such as fire-fighters and certain parts of the military.
 
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Unfortunately the most extreme of any movement or group is who gets the News airtime and who people then start to associate that movement with.

I will still continue to call myself a feminist because I believe there is more work to be done on equality for women and I will help as long as there is.
 
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People still die from LEGAL abortions, and not just the babies. It's not the reason for legalization, it's just the appeal to emotion logical fallacy they used.

Actually people were dying of botched abortion, that why it was started. I read about a lot of woman that died or were never able to have kids again. I've known many people that had legal abortion, they didn't die, are able to have children still. Compared to hangers, legal abortions are much safer.
 
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That's all well and good, really, I have no argument with it, but I do have an issue with lowering standards so women can get in such as fire-fighters and certain parts of the military.

So do I. I consider such an insult to my mother and all other women who can and did meet the same standards as men.
 
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So do I. I consider such an insult to my mother and all other women who can and did meet the same standards as men.

When I was training in the AFROTC, I always made sure I could tackle the guys' standards rather than the girls'.

(And I always did!)
 
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EDIT: I have major problems with those who say a woman has to be a job holder, must strive for what was the exclusive (pretty much) domain of men 50-100 year ago. Those who would free women from one set of limits only to impose a new prison on them and denigrate any woman who CHOSE the old roles, or part of the old roles. Those who want to do that are my enemy, both of the liberal part of me and atavistic side of me.

Absotively. I happen to believe that a mother's place is with her children, period. There is no job, no career, nothing whatsoever in the entire universe, that takes precedence over the precious job of being a mother. I think that women who value "doing it all", holding a career and being a mother, are missing out. Those kids will grow up in the blink of an eye. You have a small and precious window in which to immerse yourself in the beauty and awe and miracle of your children being young. Embrace it fully, for before you know it, it will be over, and you can never, ever get it back. I'm not knocking those who HAVE to work, like single mothers who have no choice. But for those who have a choice, and don't choose their children 100%... it makes me sad. And I'm not insulting or dissing working mothers, I just feel that they're missing out on so much. And for those women who feel that having children isn't their cup of tea, and decide to pursue careers whole-heartedly, I say "Go for it!" My only grievance is with a woman who has children, and chooses to work. Your child is so much more important than any career ladder.
 
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Gotta love how all the women mentioned have subtle little descriptives tossed in. The WAF gals are "attractive", and the first hater quoted is "31 and a bit plump" and is accused of railing against "hot young women". Apparently if you're over 30 and overweight, you're automatically kicked out of the "real women" category and you're just a stupid, old, fat hater.
Pretty sure that you missed the deliberate mocking of modern-day internet feminism there - note after the description of the lady was the parenthetical Not Safe For Bulimics, mocking the recent drove of "trigger warnings" being pushed by Internet feminists for utterly absurd things.
 
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Pretty sure that you missed the deliberate mocking of modern-day internet feminism there - note after the description of the lady was the parenthetical Not Safe For Bulimics, mocking the recent drove of "trigger warnings" being pushed by Internet feminists for utterly absurd things.

No, in fact, I did not miss that, but thanks for assuming.
 
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What is feminism... feminism is why we have the "tender years doctrine" which is why often women get custody of a child in divorce no matter how unsuited they might be.

Feminism is why we have "primary aggressor" laws which states that men are always the aggressors in domestic violence. This also leads to men not wanting to report domestic violence, nobody wants to get beaten then arrested for reporting it.

Feminism is why we have the "duluth model" which leads to male victims of domestic violence being ignored.
 
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