Are these considered bad morals?

[Leap]

And the fact that an argument does not make sense to you suggests to put words in your opponent´s mouth exactly how?

I have put words in no-one's mouth.

 

[Jade Margery]

I would agree that the woman is not doing anything morally wrong because she is not hurting anyone else. However, her self-destructive behavior indicates that she is suffering from something other than her own actions. Even the craziest party girl I knew in college didn't act like that. A person who drinks that heavily and has sex that often (both activities that alter one's mind state) sounds like someone suffering from PTSD or at least heavy emotional abuse to me. Low self-esteem, definitely.

And for those of your rejecting the psychological definition of self esteem... that's the only definition there ever was for the term.

The construct of self-esteem (or self-concept) dates back to William James, in the late 19th century, who, in his work Principles of Psychology, studied the splitting of our "global self" into "knower self" and "known self". According to James, from this splitting, which we all are more or less aware of, self-esteem is born.[17]

So stop trying to redefine words, guys!

 

[quatona]

I have put words in no-one's mouth.

Let´s see:

But now its all "oh they were victims too".

In which post had this statement be made?

 

[Leap]

In which post had this statement be made?

It wasn't. I was refering to the stance taken by the "leftist psychobabble twaddle" that I refered to. Or did you also assume that I was accusing the poster of owning an actual amplifier (in my last comment)?

 

[quatona]

It wasn't.

Ok.

I was refering to the stance taken by the "leftist psychobabble twaddle" that I refered to.

Ok, so you addressed an argument that hadn´t been made by the poster you responded to.

 

[Leap]

Ok.

Ok, so you addressed an argument that hadn´t been made by the poster you responded to.

I was illustrating the context of the point that I was addressing.

 

[quatona]

I was illustrating the context of the point that I was addressing.

 

[KimberlyAA]

Promiscuity, lack of self-respect and drunkenness ... I'd say so.

18 Run from sexual sin! No other sin so clearly affects the body as this one does. For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body. (1 Corinthians 6:18)

9 And I want women to be modest in their appearance.[a] They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (1 Timothy 2:9)

18 Don’t be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit, (Ephesians 5:18)

 

[Geoffc64]

Put simply, morals are very subjective. What I find immoral (such as cheating on a spouse) others will find perfectly acceptable.

 

[dysert]

Put simply, morals are very subjective. What I find immoral (such as cheating on a spouse) others will find perfectly acceptable.

I don't agree that morals are subjective. To have a moral code you have to have a rule ("canon" if you will) by which to measure it. Now, everyone can have their own rule, so they may be immoral by even their own standards. As Christians, though, our rule comes from the Word. There are 10 of them in Exodus 20. These aren't subjective.

 

[Leap]

Put simply, morals are very subjective. What I find immoral (such as cheating on a spouse) others will find perfectly acceptable.

Are you suggesting that the truth behind 'thou shall not murder' is "subjective"?

 

[xhayatox]

Is it good to have morals?

 

[dysert]

Is it good to have morals?

If you're talking about biblically based morals, yes.

1 Tim. 1:8 --> "But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully"

 

[Jade Margery]

Are you suggesting that the truth behind 'thou shall not murder' is "subjective"?

I thought it was 'Thou shalt not kill.'

Someone should let our soldiers know...

 

[xhayatox]

If you're talking about biblically based morals, yes.

1 Tim. 1:8 --> "But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully"

What other kind of morals are there?

 

[Gadarene]

What other kind of morals are there?

-_-

There are plenty of other moral systems beside yours.

Open a (different) book sometime.

 

[Gadarene]

Would this be considered bad morals in a person? For example..

A woman who sleeps around with strange men, wears degrading clothing

"Strange" and "degrading" are of course subjective terms.

doesn't respect herself, and gets heavily intoxicated everyday up the point where she blacks out and doesn't remember where she ends up.

Would she be considered to be immoral?

Technically I would, but this person needs help and maybe even counselling, not moralising and judgement. She's clearly hurting herself - frequent blackouts are an indicator of alcoholism.

 

[SharonL]

I would call her someone whose past is so bad that she cannot have a sober moment to think about it.

This person needs help as she is not strong enough to seek it herself - someone needs to step in and find some help for her.

 

[mathetes123]

I thought it was 'Thou shalt not kill.'

Someone should let our soldiers know...

The word is murder, not kill.

 

[mathetes123]

"Strange" and "degrading" are of course subjective terms.

Technically I would, but this person needs help and maybe even counselling, not moralising and judgement. She's clearly hurting herself - frequent blackouts are an indicator of alcoholism.

How will you approach this person to suggest counseling if one cannot call a sins a sin.