Should all christians believe in the 6 days creation?

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a belief in Crevolution (God-guided evolution) over the 6-day Creationism (vice-versa) doesn't mean you will lose your salvation or that you are not a Christian. It simply means you interpret Scripture differently from the other people.
 
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If you go looking for them on page 4 you will find two threads where I posted on this subject. Both threads have been closed by the site moderators. One is called : "Evolution ... Say it isn't so", wherein my posts start on page 24 of the thread; and the other is called : "Spaceships in the Bible".

Collectively they show that GOD could very well have created the earth and all that is on it in six days of his time, while millions of years have passed for the inhabitants of Earth. Bear in mind that Einstein's theory of relativity has been proven to be true and that it says that time is relative to how fast whoever or whatever experiences said time is traveling.
 
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I hope I may answer.

Should all Christians believe in the 6 days of creation?

No, even though I am a Creationist and believe that is how God did as described in the Bible still good Christians can disagree over a non core doctrine

Where do the millions of years come from?

Man has a great imagination


Can this evolution belief inside the christian church damage
people's faith?
Bible-tube.com

I believe it can, yes.
 
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a belief in Crevolution (God-guided evolution) over the 6-day Creationism (vice-versa) doesn't mean you will lose your salvation or that you are not a Christian. It simply means you interpret Scripture differently from the other people.

Well put.
 
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Shold all christians believe in the 6 days of creation?
Where do the millions of years come from?
Can this evolution belief inside the christian church damage
people's faith?
Bible-tube.com

All Christians should believe the truth. The belief in evolution and an old age absolutely damages peoples faith, and has converted more Christians into atheists than anything else I've heard of. You know a tree by its fruits.

Many Christians I meet who believe in evolution and an old age of the Earth don't end their skepticism with the six days of creation. They are usually in doubt about much of scripture, and they bring that doubt about the truth into the body of Christ. That can only be a dangerous thing. I don't say this applies to all Christians who believe this way, but to more than a few these beliefs are huge stumbling blocks to a pure faith in Christ.
 
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I believe that God created the world in 6 days. I don't believe, however, that those 6 days comprised just 144 hours.

ok holyrokker, let's do some math. if a day is a thousand years and a thousand years a day in the eyes of God, ( overlooking the fact that this is just teaching us that in the spiritual world which God lives in there is no time limits ). but we'll take it literally in this world if you insist. so one day of creation could have been longer than a day and a night as 24 hours,(so you may say a thousand years), Adam was created on the sixth day. now not counting the six day, for we know what time of day it was that God created man ( on that thousand year day) Adam lived a whole day on the Sabbath day. making Adam a thousand years old, plus the 930 years that he lived in the 24 hour day would have made Adam 1930 years old. but we can only say this if we don't trust the Holy Word of God which we called the HOLY Bible, but if we trust the Bible which says that God can not lie and
Genesis 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
KJV

so instead of Adam living 1930 years, the Holy Word of God says:
Genesis 5:5
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
KJV
so now either a day was a 24 day during creation time or Adam was alot older than the True word of God says, and if we start off with the INSPIRED word of God with a lie in the first chapter, then how do we know that the truth is in the verse that tells us: "that God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son" or do we as man get to say what is true and what is a lie in the HOLY WORD of God,

"it has been said that God said and I believe it and that makes it so". no no no no!!!! the truth of the matter is God said it, that's what makes it so, regardless of how many believe it, God said it that's what makes it true. so if God said on day six consisting of a day and a night as one day He created man, how dare you or any other professing Christians to say any difference!
 
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a belief in Crevolution (God-guided evolution) over the 6-day Creationism (vice-versa) doesn't mean you will lose your salvation or that you are not a Christian. It simply means you interpret Scripture differently from the other people.

But If God said that:

Genesis 1:24-25
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
KJV
God didn't say that a cattle would produce a horse or a horse produce a cow. or a worm a frog and so on and so on! He didn't even say now I created a germ let it one day evolve into a worm and so on and so on. It says that what He created: that what it was, if God used evolution then cattle would evolve into something else and we would no longer have cattle, or where are the talking monkeys that we evolved from. iF you can't trust God as He has said in creation then can you trust Him in salvation, if you claim God has lied and didn't created cattle after their kind then how do you know or how can one trust Him when He said that has paid our debt for us??


Romans 1:20-25
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
KJV
I am not saying you lose your salvation, but salvation is through faith, faith in a God that can not Lie, faith that cometh by hearing the Word of God, what word have you heard that you have based your faith on. Islam thinks they have the true god, hindu think thay have the true god, budda says he is the true god, is the word you have heard the true God of Holy scriptures, or a god that man has made Him to be? Have you bought into a God of scriptures or a god man has made from scriptures? it is your call not mine, but part of our service for God is to share the good news with others can we truely share this good news with others, if we see a god that has not told the whole truth in His Holy Word?


Matthew 4:4
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
KJV
 
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ok holyrokker, let's do some math. if a day is a thousand years and a thousand years a day in the eyes of God, ( overlooking the fact that this is just teaching us that in the spiritual world which God lives in there is no time limits ). but we'll take it literally in this world if you insist. so one day of creation could have been longer than a day and a night as 24 hours,(so you may say a thousand years), Adam was created on the sixth day. now not counting the six day, for we know what time of day it was that God created man ( on that thousand year day) Adam lived a whole day on the Sabbath day. making Adam a thousand years old, plus the 930 years that he lived in the 24 hour day would have made Adam 1930 years old. but we can only say this if we don't trust the Holy Word of God which we called the HOLY Bible, but if we trust the Bible which says that God can not lie and
Genesis 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
KJV

so instead of Adam living 1930 years, the Holy Word of God says:
Genesis 5:5
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
KJV
so now either a day was a 24 day during creation time or Adam was alot older than the True word of God says, and if we start off with the INSPIRED word of God with a lie in the first chapter, then how do we know that the truth is in the verse that tells us: "that God so loved the World that He gave His only Begotten Son" or do we as man get to say what is true and what is a lie in the HOLY WORD of God,

"it has been said that God said and I believe it and that makes it so". no no no no!!!! the truth of the matter is God said it, that's what makes it so, regardless of how many believe it, God said it that's what makes it true. so if God said on day six consisting of a day and a night as one day He created man, how dare you or any other professing Christians to say any difference!
:confused:

I'm trying to be faithful with what the Bible says. The Bible doesn't say that God devoted each of the the creation days to six 24-hour time periods. The word usage, and the literary style of Genesis chapter one (a poetic style) point toward an accurate account of six days, each of which is an indefinite period of time: it could be thousands, even millions of years for each day. There is nothing in the text that restricts the creation week to one six-day period that totals 144 hours. Such restrictions are placed on the text from a person's own prefered doctrine. It's an idea that isn't derived from the Bible. Rather, it's man's idea being imposed on Scripture.
 
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a belief in Crevolution (God-guided evolution) over the 6-day Creationism (vice-versa) doesn't mean you will lose your salvation or that you are not a Christian. It simply means you interpret Scripture differently from the other people.

I like that answer. We must believe in Christ and give ourselves to Him, I don't see salvation being dependent on understanding how long a day/million years is to our Creator. None of us were there to witness creation, we have the scripture and our human science... faith in Christ is paramount, understanding the creation process... not so much.
 
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But If God said that:

Genesis 1:24-25
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
KJV

God didn't say that a cattle would produce a horse or a horse produce a cow. or a worm a frog and so on and so on!
Neither does the scientific theory of evolution.

or where are the talking monkeys that we evolved from.
The Bible also says God made us in His image, no? That means that God made us special (with a soul, a sovereign [but not omnipotent] will, a God-sized void that was filled in Eden and is filled w/ the Holy Spirit). It's possible He could have taken an animal (which is made from generally the same elements as the elements in the ground / dirt) and molded it into the first true humans which were in His image. plus all the animals we see today? We didn't evolve from them! According to science, we evolved from a common ancestor.

iF you can't trust God as He has said in creation then you can't trust Him in salvation, if you claim God has lied and didn't created cattle after their kind then how do you know or how can one trust Him when He said that has paid our debt for us??
Which is why I didn't say "Evolution," or Deistic/Atheistic-evolution. Crevolution means God did make all the animals, but in a different way. Just because "the pot is red" =/= "the pot is crimson," that doesn't mean they contradict, one is just a more descriptive version explaining in detail what the first one probably saw in the pot. 'Course, we didn't see creation, so we can't say it didn't happen via crevolution (and we can't 100% say it did, I'm just defending the viability of a general theistic evolutionist-Christian's beliefs... I guess I am beginning to think like one?) I do believe God is bigger than human reasoning. Jesus' situations stumps science (and rightfully so!) healing plenty of people without advil, tylenol, and benedryl, and then providing salvation for whosoever will. God aint a liar, and I trust Him. :) I just can interpret it also in the TE's perspective.

I am not saying you lose your salvation, but salvation is through faith, faith in a God that can not Lie, faith that cometh by hearing the Word of God, what word have you heard that you have based your faith on. Islam thinks they have the true god, hindu think thay have the true god, budda says he is the true god, is the word you have heard the true God of Holy scriptures, or a god that man has made Him to be? Have you bought into a God of scriptures or a god man has made from scriptures? it is your call not mine, but part of our service for God is to share the good news with others can we truely share this good news with others, if we see a god that has not told the whole truth in His Holy Word?
I believe that Christianity is different because it's not about what humans are to do to be able to commune with God, but rather it's about God-sized grace. It's all about what God has done, is doing, and will do to make Himself known to people so that they may know what He has done out of grace for them. I believe – a God powerful enough to humble Himself for a weaker being out of sheer compassion for them, despite how they live, and then die for their sake – is worthy of praise, not because He proved Himself, but because of who He is, and that He chose to reveal that to us.

Matthew 4:4
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
KJV
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I love that one, it's so true!
 
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:confused:

I'm trying to be faithful with what the Bible says. The Bible doesn't say that God devoted each of the the creation days to six 24-hour time periods. The word usage, and the literary style of Genesis chapter one (a poetic style) point toward an accurate account of six days, each of which is an indefinite period of time: it could be thousands, even millions of years for each day. There is nothing in the text that restricts the creation week to one six-day period that totals 144 hours. Such restrictions are placed on the text from a person's own prefered doctrine. It's an idea that isn't derived from the Bible. Rather, it's man's idea being imposed on Scripture.

so please tell us your take on these verses then:

Genesis 1:14-19
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
KJV

or this one maybe:

Genesis 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
 
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Neither does the scientific theory of evolution.


The Bible also says God made us in His image, no? That means that God made us special (with a soul, a sovereign [but not omnipotent] will, a God-sized void that was filled in Eden and is filled w/ the Holy Spirit). It's possible He could have taken an animal (which is made from generally the same elements as the elements in the ground / dirt) and molded it into the first true humans which were in His image. plus all the animals we see today? We didn't evolve from them! According to science, we evolved from a common ancestor.


Which is why I didn't say "Evolution," or Deistic/Atheistic-evolution. Crevolution means God did make all the animals, but in a different way. Just because "the pot is red" =/= "the pot is crimson," that doesn't mean they contradict, one is just a more descriptive version explaining in detail what the first one probably saw in the pot. 'Course, we didn't see creation, so we can't say it didn't happen via crevolution (and we can't 100% say it did, I'm just defending the viability of a general theistic evolutionist-Christian's beliefs... I guess I am beginning to think like one?) I do believe God is bigger than human reasoning. Jesus' situations stumps science (and rightfully so!) healing plenty of people without advil, tylenol, and benedryl, and then providing salvation for whosoever will. God aint a liar, and I trust Him. :) I just can interpret it also in the TE's perspective.


I believe that Christianity is different because it's not about what humans are to do to be able to commune with God, but rather it's about God-sized grace. It's all about what God has done, is doing, and will do to make Himself known to people so that they may know what He has done out of grace for them. I believe – a God powerful enough to humble Himself for a weaker being out of sheer compassion for them, despite how they live, and then die for their sake – is worthy of praise, not because He proved Himself, but because of who He is, and that He chose to reveal that to us.
I love that one, it's so true![/quote]
crevolution is mixing what the Holy Word says and what man says, and that is not the right way to rightly divide the Word of God. evolution is a theory, a wrong theory but a theory and that is all it is. The Word of God is truth. man made the test that they use to determine how old anything is, man made it, faulty man made the faulty test.
 
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crevolution is mixing what the Holy Word says and what man says, and that is not the right way to rightly divide the Word of God. evolution is a theory, a wrong theory but a theory and that is all it is. The Word of God is truth. man made the test that they use to determine how old anything is, man made it, faulty man made the faulty test.

do you have any sources?
 
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:confused:

I'm trying to be faithful with what the Bible says. The Bible doesn't say that God devoted each of the the creation days to six 24-hour time periods. The word usage, and the literary style of Genesis chapter one (a poetic style) point toward an accurate account of six days, each of which is an indefinite period of time: it could be thousands, even millions of years for each day. There is nothing in the text that restricts the creation week to one six-day period that totals 144 hours. Such restrictions are placed on the text from a person's own prefered doctrine. It's an idea that isn't derived from the Bible. Rather, it's man's idea being imposed on Scripture.
Aren't you imposing an "interpretation" there that is unnecessary to understand the text, except in an effort to reconcile with a naturalistic world-view? And it might even work except for the modifier: the evening and the morning, which pretty much restricts it to a 24 hour period.

I have no choice but to believe in a literal six-day creation. Why? Because the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and God does not lie.

2 Peter 1
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

If God had intended to convey the thought that things happened over a long period of time, he could have said so, just that simply. No need for him to go into any more detail than he did. But the author wrote down exactly as the Spirit dictated to him...an evening and a morning, day one...or day two...or three, etc.

If the creation did not happen just as the Holy Spirit inspired the Genesis author to write it down, well then, somebody lied. Either the Holy Spirit is misleading us, or the author didn't transcribe exactly what the Holy Spirit inspired, or Peter's statement is wrong. It's as simple as that. And that calls into doubt the whole of the Bible, including the need for a Savior.

So, in spite of the claims that science makes concerning the age of the universe, and I've studied them enough to know that there is considerable room for doubt, I have to trust that the Lord said what He meant, and meant what He said. There's no other choice, at least for me.
 
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Aren't you imposing an "interpretation" there that is unnecessary to understand the text, except in an effort to reconcile with a naturalistic world-view? And it might even work except for the modifier: the evening and the morning, which pretty much restricts it to a 24 hour period.

I have no choice but to believe in a literal six-day creation. Why? Because the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and God does not lie.

2 Peter 1
20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

If God had intended to convey the thought that things happened over a long period of time, he could have said so, just that simply. No need for him to go into any more detail than he did. But the author wrote down exactly as the Spirit dictated to him...an evening and a morning, day one...or day two...or three, etc.

If the creation did not happen just as the Holy Spirit inspired the Genesis author to write it down, well then, somebody lied. Either the Holy Spirit is misleading us, or the author didn't transcribe exactly what the Holy Spirit inspired, or Peter's statement is wrong. It's as simple as that. And that calls into doubt the whole of the Bible, including the need for a Savior.

So, in spite of the claims that science makes concerning the age of the universe, and I've studied them enough to know that there is considerable room for doubt, I have to trust that the Lord said what He meant, and meant what He said. There's no other choice, at least for me.
Where does the Bible say that the days in Genesis one can only be interepeted to mean six 24-hour periods of time?

In the Hebrew text, the word translated as "day" can also be translated as an indefinite period of time. It can also refer to the period of time between sunrise and sunset (significantly fewer than 24 hours).

So demanding that the word means "24 hours" is placing a restriction on the text that isn't imposed by the text itself. It's a restriction placed upon it from an outside source.

It doesn't mean that God didn't create the "heavens and the earth".
 
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