On Wisconsin

[grasping the after wind]

What are you even talking about?


If Reps aren't mad about nto being ask to participate then why say anything at all? Funny is expecting to be asked to participate in an event while opposing the cause.

I think his point is not that the elephants ought to be able to participate but that the decision to exclude them is childish vindictiveness and of course one is tempted to laugh at adults acting in the manner of spoiled children who pout when they don't get their way.

 

[kermit]

I think his point is not that the elephants ought to be able to participate but that the decision to exclude them is childish vindictiveness and of course one is tempted to laugh at adults acting in the manner of spoiled children who pout when they don't get their way.

How is it childish to make a conscious decision to not include those whom have opposed the cause the parade is celebrating?

Should a gay-pride parade invite the Westboro Baptist Church to participate? Is not asking them to do so childish?

Also, elected officials were not invited because of party, but because of the stances they have chosen to take. The so called "Party of Person Responsiblity" seems to get upset whenever they are asked to live the consequenses of their choices.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Hey, here's a newflash! You lost elections, and elections have cosequences. Take a minute and get over it.

Kenyan elections don't count.

 

[okafor]

Kenyan elections don't count.

I'm sure they do to Kenyons. But in Wisconsin, they have consequences for Wisconsonians, or whatever they call themselves.

Again, liberals are funny, then they get vicious when they lose. We're in for rough year.

 

[Gishin]

Oh, I thoroughly understand your logic. I think Democrats should be banned from all 4th of July, Memorial Day, and Veteran's Day celebrations. Socialist May Day is more for them, don't you think?

Didn't we already go over the fact that there are liberal patriots?

 

[okafor]

Didn't we already go over the fact that there are liberal patriots?

Yep.

 

[Gishin]

Yep.

Carry on then.

 

[okafor]

Carry on then.

Thank you, and thank you again for your service. I haven't forgotten about you.

 

[Gishin]

Thank you, and thank you again for your service. I haven't forgotten about you.

It's ok. I separated. You can rage at me now.

 

[keith99]

Also, it is a privately funded event so they are allowed to invite or not invite whomever the choose. Apparently some do not understand that concept.

I'd disagree if their position really was to exclude all republicans. As in excluding actual workeds who registered Republican. And if they did that I'd expect support the worker who filed suit against the orginazation.

It does not seem that this is what they are doing. They are excluding Republican Politicians who voted against labor. That seems completely reasonable.

 

[keith99]

How is it childish to make a conscious decision to not include those whom have opposed the cause the parade is celebrating?

Should a gay-pride parade invite the Westboro Baptist Church to participate? Is not asking them to do so childish?

Also, elected officials were not invited because of party, but because of the stances they have chosen to take. The so called "Party of Person Responsiblity" seems to get upset whenever they are asked to live the consequenses of their choices.

Sure, it is a great way to tweak them. I think puting them between the nearly naked drill team and 'The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence' in hte marching order would work very nicely.

(The Sisters are a real group, gay men who dress up as Nuns, on a level near Carnival. They manage to raise a lot of money for charitable causes while having a pretty good time).

 

[grasping the after wind]

How is it childish to make a conscious decision to not include those whom have opposed the cause the parade is celebrating?

Should a gay-pride parade invite the Westboro Baptist Church to participate? Is not asking them to do so childish?

Also, elected officials were not invited because of party, but because of the stances they have chosen to take. The so called "Party of Person Responsiblity" seems to get upset whenever they are asked to live the consequenses of their choices.

I don't see anyone being upset but the ones trying to use a parade as a political pay back because they are unwilling to accept the perfectly reasonable decisions of the people's duly elected representatives.
What cause does a Labor Day parade celebrate that these people are opposing? I don't recognize any. They are opposing a specific interest group's goals . Because that group might call itself a Labor union does not mean that they are the arbiters of what constitutes the spirit of Labor Day. It is childish to use a national holiday( that should be a time for celebrating all workers and work not only unionized workers and certainly not unions) as an occasion to try to get even with ones political opponents. It is small and petty and deserves derision.

 

[SOAD]

I don't see anyone being upset but the ones trying to use a parade as a political pay back because they are unwilling to accept the perfectly reasonable decisions of the people's duly elected representatives.
What cause does a Labor Day parade celebrate that these people are opposing? I don't recognize any. They are opposing a specific interest group's goals . Because that group might call itself a Labor union does not mean that they are the arbiters of what constitutes the spirit of Labor Day. It is childish to use a national holiday( that should be a time for celebrating all workers and work not only unionized workers and certainly not unions) as an occasion to try to get even with ones political opponents. It is small and petty and deserves derision.

You do not understand the history of Labor Day.

Labor Day is to celebrate "the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations"

Wisconsin republicans attack Labor unions and deserve no place in a Labor Day Parade.

Would you invite your neighbor to your child's birthday party just 3 months after he turned you into CPS for child abuse?

 

[kermit]

the perfectly reasonable decisions of the people's duly elected representatives.

Elected officials who are in the pocket of anti-labor corporatists stripping away the collective bargaining rights of hard-working Americans is in no way "reasonable". Then to lie by claiming it was about the budget was unconscionable.

Like I've asked numerous conservatives, if it really was about the budget when why were they so set on this? Why the unwillingness to explore all options? So far all conservatives have dodged those questions and if you are honest with yourself you know why.

 

[childofGod1]

I'm sure they do to Kenyons. But in Wisconsin, they have consequences for Wisconsonians, or whatever they call themselves.

Again, liberals are funny, then they get vicious when they lose. We're in for rough year.

I'm a proud Wisconsinite, thankfully former Minnesotan, and I'm having a good chuckle over this leftist tantrum. I expect to see many more entertainingly futile spasms after 2012.

 

[revanneosl]

The only tantrums at present are being thrown by the Republicons who wanted to be able to take a big steaming dump all over organized labor and still come to the big Labor Day Party.

 

[SOAD]

The only tantrums at present are being thrown by the Republicons who wanted to be able to take a big steaming dump all over organized labor and still come to the big Labor Day Party.

What do you expect? They don't even understand the history of Labor Day!

 

[kermit]

You do not understand the history of Labor Day.

Labor Day is to celebrate "the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations"

When I was in business school a required class taught the history of business and in that class we learned about the labor abuses and origins of labor unions. We learned about the great disparity in wealth that occurred and how the great success of the early industrialists were unsustainable without labor reform. The more time I spend in the business world the more it becomes obvious that too few business schools require that class.

There was a time in American industry that the worker was concidered an expense to be minimized. Real growth occured when some industrialists realized that workers are assets to be cultivated (Henry Ford being the most obvious). It seems that many in the country want to return to the bad old days.

 

[revanneosl]

What blows my mind is how well the owners have done with their propaganda. They've managed to convince working-class Americans to support policies that will turn them into serfs.

 

[lordbt]

What blows my mind is how well the owners have done with their propaganda. They've managed to convince working-class Americans to support policies that will turn them into serfs.

Unions make up about 10% of the private work force, so by your reasoning 90% of us are already serfs. There is a reason why union membership is declining--unions arent necessary--unless you consider electing democrat politicians to office a necessity. Their largest remaining purpose is as a political arm of the left. Public unions line the pocket of the mediocre at the expense of the taxpaying public.

And the public is waking up.