Republicans and Lightbulbs

[Andrew Ryan]

Really? With all that is going wrong with America, you're concerns are on lightbulbs? I say, out with the old and in with the new, if it's more efficient and cost effective, then why would you be against that? Why? This is retarded.

Bachmann to Democrats: Don't Tell Americans What Lightbulbs to Buy - Michele Bachmann - Fox Nation

 

[mandyangel]

I really disagree with the government telling businesses what they can and can't sell. The new lightbulbs make everything in the room look like ugh.

 

[SithDoughnut]

I really disagree with the government telling businesses what they can and can't sell. The new lightbulbs make everything in the room look like ugh.

So all products should be legal to sell by anyone? All drugs, all weapons and so on? I'm not saying you're wrong, just making sure I understand your position.

 

[mandyangel]

So all products should be legal to sell by anyone? All drugs, all weapons and so on? I'm not saying you're wrong, just making sure I understand your position.

Well I don't think lightbulbs are drugs and they don't really pose a danger to anyone unless you burn yourself. It seems that the Obama administration loves the "green industry," and this just smells to me as the government passing a law to prop up companies to their liking (perhaps campain contributors?) I personally don't really need my butt warmed by the seat in my car but I don't think the government should be banning butt warmers. Let the market decide.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Well I don't think lightbulbs are drugs and they don't really pose a danger to anyone unless you burn yourself. It seems that the Obama administration loves the "green industry," and this just smells to me as the government passing a law to prop up companies to their liking (perhaps campain contributors?) I personally don't really need my butt warmed by the seat in my car but I don't think the government should be banning butt warmers. Let the market decide.

So let the market decide on things that are not dangerous? I'm pretty sure the whole movement to change the bulbs is because they pose an environmental danger.

 

[mandyangel]

So let the market decide on things that are not dangerous? I'm pretty sure the whole movement to change the bulbs is because they pose an environmental danger.

Well, I'm not sure if lightbulbs pose an environmental danger excpet from that thin, thin cardboard that they could break. But lets say they do, should the government also ban McDonalds because it makes people fat? Should they ban aersol paint? Should they ban big screen TV's cause those take up a lot of electricity? Believe me, they're actually trying to do all of this BUT WHY? Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose?

Some people like big screen TV's and some like spray paint, what right does the government have to say "no, you can't have that because we know better than you."

Frankly the energy saving light bulbs are bad and maybe when they develop better ones people will buy them but it shouldn't be government mandated.

Its a mud slide towards socialism if you get the government telling you what you can and cannot have in your house.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Well, I'm not sure if lightbulbs pose an environmental danger excpet from that thin, thin cardboard that they could break. But lets say they do, should the government also ban McDonalds because it makes people fat? Should they ban aersol paint? Should they ban big screen TV's cause those take up a lot of electricity? Believe me, they're actually trying to do all of this BUT WHY? Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose?

Some people like big screen TV's and some like spray paint, what right does the government have to say "no, you can't have that because we know better than you."

Frankly the energy saving light bulbs are bad and maybe when they develop better ones people will buy them but it shouldn't be government mandated.

Its a mud slide towards socialism if you get the government telling you what you can and cannot have in your house.

So anyone should be allowed to own anything?

 

[JustMeSee]

I don't see the big deal. If you want the old bulbs, just stockpile them before the new year.

Personally, I like to save the electric costs and not to have to change bulbs as frequently.

Aren't there bigger issues to address in politics?

 

[citizenthom]

Really? With all that is going wrong with America, you're concerns are on lightbulbs? I say, out with the old and in with the new, if it's more efficient and cost effective, then why would you be against that?http://nation.foxnews.com/michele-b...crats-dont-tell-americans-what-lightbulbs-buy

Because it's an undue and preposterous burden on the poor to quintuple the costs of light bulbs with truly minimal societal gain.

Nobody said the new light bulbs are a universal evil; but forcing people to buy them when there is a substantially cheaper alternative is.

 

[Spirko]

Really? With all that is going wrong with America, you're concerns are on lightbulbs? I say, out with the old and in with the new, if it's more efficient and cost effective, then why would you be against that? Why? This is retarded.

Bachmann to Democrats: Don't Tell Americans What Lightbulbs to Buy - Michele Bachmann - Fox Nation

I'm not a Republican, but I'm with Bachman. I don't like the new light bulbs because I don't like the way they look and because I don't like having the lead in my home.

I don't understand why liberals keep telling us that they're "pro-choice", but then want to micro-manage our lives to the point that they're now telling us what lightbulbs we should be allowed to buy.

We're already stocking up on incandescent bulbs and have enough that they should last us several years.

 

[Spirko]

So let the market decide on things that are not dangerous? I'm pretty sure the whole movement to change the bulbs is because they pose an environmental danger.

And all of the lead in the new ones don't?

 

[Wolseley]

And all of the lead in the new ones don't?

Not to mention mercury. If you drop one of those pigtail bulbs and smash it, it is recommended that you ventilete the room for a half hour before re-entering. You never had to do that with an incandescent light bulb, I'll tell you that. Typical liberal solution of solving one problem while they create three more that are worse than the original problem to begin with.

 

[Lockguy3000]

Well I don't think lightbulbs are drugs and they don't really pose a danger to anyone unless you burn yourself. It seems that the Obama administration loves the "green industry," and this just smells to me as the government passing a law to prop up companies to their liking (perhaps campain contributors?) I personally don't really need my butt warmed by the seat in my car but I don't think the government should be banning butt warmers. Let the market decide.

This bill was passed in 2007,
blame it on Bush

 

[SithDoughnut]

And all of the lead in the new ones don't?

There's lead in the old ones too. However, that wasn't the point that I was trying to make.

 

[lawtonfogle]

Well, I'm not sure if lightbulbs pose an environmental danger excpet from that thin, thin cardboard that they could break. But lets say they do, should the government also ban McDonalds because it makes people fat? Should they ban aersol paint? Should they ban big screen TV's cause those take up a lot of electricity? Believe me, they're actually trying to do all of this BUT WHY? Shouldn't people have the freedom to choose?

Some people like big screen TV's and some like spray paint, what right does the government have to say "no, you can't have that because we know better than you."

Frankly the energy saving light bulbs are bad and maybe when they develop better ones people will buy them but it shouldn't be government mandated.

Its a mud slide towards socialism if you get the government telling you what you can and cannot have in your house.

But you let them tell me if I can have pot or not, right?

 

[citizenthom]

Wherefore this presumption that free market conservative= anti- drug crusader?

 

[Andrew Ryan]

So let the market decide on things that are not dangerous? I'm pretty sure the whole movement to change the bulbs is because they pose an environmental danger.

I have read that the new lightbulbs are not only more enviromentally friendly but they are more cost effective as well because of their superior energy efficiency which I believe the savings by switching to the newer lightbulbs ranged in the X billion(s).

 

[Umaro]

I think the real issue here is "should a person be able to buy externalities?" Sure, you can afford to use the less efficient ones, we live in the richest country on earth after all. However, while you're using all that, you're depleting total fuel reserves, contributing to pollution more, and a whole host of externalities you just don't see.

Often times these externalities are hidden from you too. Take plastic bags at grocery stores. They don't hand them out for free, they just lump the price into food prices. You buy the bag, take it home, throw it away, and it ends up in a landfill. Sure, you can afford it, but should you really be able to essentially buy pollution?

It's always a matter of degree though, since we can't stop it all. We obviously can't stop using burning gas for cars, but it seems pretty reasonable that we mandate your car must get X mpg.

 

[Andrew Ryan]

I really disagree with the government telling businesses what they can and can't sell.

This is where we disagree, I believe that private businesses should ultimately serve the interests of the State.

The new lightbulbs make everything in the room look like ugh.

I like them, I heard they now come in off-white too. Plus, I don't understand why you (not singling you out, just a common argument) would put personal preference over something that would save the State a lot of money, which is what we need desperately or help protect the enviroment, which is in everyones self-interest to do so.

 

[Supreme]

Why are Republicans trying to pass a law on lightbulbs? Isn't this an insult for taxpayers? Politicians aren't elected to make laws on lightbulbs.

I've never in my life known anyone who cares about lightbulbs to the extent they'd pass a law involving light bulbs.

It's a strange world.