Are ALLAH GOD YHWH the same?

[LittleLambofJesus]

This was taken from another thread on the Christ-ian theology board and I would like to hear Muslim responses to it. Thanks and Peace.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5135258&page=15
Allah


I've read MANY threads on this forum where people refer to Allah as the God of the Muslim's as if this is a proper name of some "false god" and that is just not true, so I would really like to set the record straight and educate those who are unaware of the fact that "Allah" is the ARABIC WORD ~for~ GOD.

Just as "Dios" is the SPANISH word for GOD.

And "Dieu" is the FRENCH word for GOD.

"Allah" is the ARABIC word for GOD.

It is not the "proper name" of a particular Islamic God connected only to Muslims. Even Arabic CHRISTIANS use the word "Allah" to refer to GOD. The Aramaic BIBLE uses the word "Allah" for GOD, as it is the Arabic word ~for~ God.

I would just like to ask that we please keep that in mind when making statements about Muslims and "false gods" so that we don't insult our Arabic brothers and sisters in CHRIST because of our lack of knowledge on this subject.

Many thanks!!

 

[yourfriend58]

This was taken from another thread on the Christ-ian theology board and I would like to hear Muslim responses to it. Thanks and Peace.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5135258&page=15
Allah


I've read MANY threads on this forum where people refer to Allah as the God of the Muslim's as if this is a proper name of some "false god" and that is just not true, so I would really like to set the record straight and educate those who are unaware of the fact that "Allah" is the ARABIC WORD ~for~ GOD.

Just as "Dios" is the SPANISH word for GOD.

And "Dieu" is the FRENCH word for GOD.

"Allah" is the ARABIC word for GOD.

It is not the "proper name" of a particular Islamic God connected only to Muslims. Even Arabic CHRISTIANS use the word "Allah" to refer to GOD. The Aramaic BIBLE uses the word "Allah" for GOD, as it is the Arabic word ~for~ God.

I would just like to ask that we please keep that in mind when making statements about Muslims and "false gods" so that we don't insult our Arabic brothers and sisters in CHRIST because of our lack of knowledge on this subject.

Many thanks!!

Many thanks for you .
It was nice of you.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Many thanks for you .
It was nice of you.

Your welcome. Are you able to access that thread by any chance and perhaps you can copy and paste some of the posts to bring here and discuss them.
I even put up about Matt 21:43 up there as some CHRIST-ians appear to focus on the "Jews" a lot today. Many thanks.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5135258-allah.html
http://www.christianforums.com/t951973&page=5

Matthew 21:43. (Jesus was talking to the pharisees and he told them)

Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing fruits from it.
My question is why and who is that nation GOD has given his kingdom to?

Originally Posted by sunrise0 http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=32904784/lpost32904784

apparently, the Great nation belongs to Ishmael

will someone please tell us where is this nation?
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quote poster: Again as was suggested in other threads, GO TO ROMANS 11 which explains that this is all temporary as God works in the Gentile nations to bring salvation.

When that time is over, GOD IS GOING BACK TO FOCUS ON THE JEWS. He is NOT done with them, and they continue to be the apple of His eye and are the original branch we're grafted into.

 

[TrevorKamal]

Of course they are. Duh.

 

[anatolian]

Matthew 21:43. (Jesus was talking to the pharisees and he told them)

Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing fruits from it.
My question is why and who is that nation GOD has given his kingdom to?

Isaiah 54

1 Sing, O barren one, who did not bear;break forth into singing and cry aloud,you who have not been in labor!For the children of the desolate one will be morethan the children of her who is married, says the Lord. 2 Enlarge the place of your tent,and let the curtains of your habitations be stretched out;do not hold back; lengthen your cordsand strengthen your stakes. 3 For you will spread abroad to the right and to the left,and your offspring will possess the nationsand will people the desolate cities. 4 Fear not, for you will not be ashamed;be not confounded, for you will not be disgraced;for you will forget the shame of your youth,and the reproach of your widowhood you will remember no more. 5 For your Maker is your husband,the Lord of hosts is his name;and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer,the God of the whole earth he is called.
6 For the Lord has called youlike a wife deserted and grieved in spirit,like a wife of youth when she is cast off,says your God. 7 For a brief moment I deserted you,but with great compassion I will gather you. 8 In overflowing anger for a momentI hid my face from you,but with everlasting love I will have compassion on you,says the Lord, your Redeemer. 9 This is like the days of Noah to me:as I swore that the waters of Noahshould no more go over the earth,so I have sworn that I will not be angry with you,and will not rebuke you. 10 For the mountains may departand the hills be removed,but my steadfast love shall not depart from you,and my covenant of peace shall not be removed,says the Lord, who has compassion on you. 11 O afflicted one, storm-tossed and not comforted,behold, I will set your stones in antimony,and lay your foundations with sapphires. 12 I will make your pinnacles of agate,your gates of carbuncles,and all your wall of precious stones. 13 All your children shall be taught by the Lord,and great shall be the peace of your children. 14 In righteousness you shall be established;you shall be far from oppression, for you shall not fear;and from terror, for it shall not come near you. 15 If anyone stirs up strife,it is not from me;whoever stirs up strife with youshall fall because of you. 16 Behold, I have created the smithwho blows the fire of coalsand produces a weapon for its purpose.I have also created the ravager to destroy; 17 no weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed,and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment.This is the heritage of the servants of the Lordand their vindication from me, declares the Lord.

is this?

 

[Luminaire]

I always thought of this as a badly worded question. I would say the difference between "YHWH/GOD/ALLAH" is the difference between Judaism/Christianity/Islam.

 

[anatolian]

for the question,I dont know what YHWH means exactly but Allah refers to the God of Abraham who is the only God

 

[Mailman Dan]

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Those in Christ have the Living God. Those without, are obviously not the same. It is basic, straight foward, scripture.

Dan~~~>doesn't think it could be spelled out any more clear

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

for the question,I dont know what YHWH means exactly but Allah refers to the God of Abraham who is the only God

Well, I use it as short for the Creator/LORD/GOD, the LORD of Lords and GOD of Gods.

Zeph 1:Be silent in the presence of the Lord YHWH For the day of YHWH [is] at hand, For the LORD has prepared a sacrifice; He has invited His guests........17 "I will bring distress upon men, And they shall walk like blind men, Because they have sinned against YHWH; Their blood shall be poured out like dust, And their flesh like dung." 18 Neither their silver nor their gold Shall be able to deliver them In the day of the YHWH's wrath;

 

[Raul7]

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Those in Christ have the Living God. Those without, are obviously not the same. It is basic, straight foward, scripture.

Dan~~~>doesn't think it could be spelled out any more clear

Why should I trust anything John says when his Gospel isn't considered part of the Triple Tradition?

Say: "If (Allah) Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship." Glory to the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord of the Throne (of Authority)! (He is free) from the things they attribute (to him)! So leave them to babble and play (with vanities) until they meet that Day of theirs, which they have been promised....And those whom they invoke besides Allah have no power of intercession;- only he who bears witness to the Truth, and they know (him). If thou ask them, who created them, they will certainly say, Allah: How then are they deluded away (from the Truth)? (Qur'an 43:78-87)

How are you deluded? Certainly it is God who created you and everyone, including Jesus (peace be upon him). Jesus or anyone for that matter is powerless without God.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How are you deluded? Certainly it is God who created you and everyone, including Jesus (peace be upon him). Jesus or anyone for that matter is powerless without God.

But of course He is.

Revelation 1:1 [a/an] From/Un-Covering/Veiling[ apo-kaluyiV] Yeshuwa` Mashiyach, which gives to Him, the God/YHWH, to show to the bondservants of Him, which is behooving to be becoming in swiftness.

http://www.christianforums.com/t4559...emic-book.html
-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book

 

[TrevorKamal]

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Those in Christ have the Living God. Those without, are obviously not the same. It is basic, straight foward, scripture.

Dan~~~>doesn't think it could be spelled out any more clear

And since Muhammad affirmed that Jesus is the Christ, you're agreeing that Allah, God, and YHWH are the same, right? I'm just asking because the way the second half of the post was worded it seemed to suggest that you were disagreeing with the original post which seems contradictory to what John was saying.

 

[anatolian]

Well, I use it as short for the Creator/LORD/GOD, the LORD of Lords and GOD of Gods.

Zeph 1:Be silent in the presence of the Lord YHWH For the day of YHWH [is] at hand, For the LORD has prepared a sacrifice; He has invited His guests........17 "I will bring distress upon men, And they shall walk like blind men, Because they have sinned against YHWH; Their blood shall be poured out like dust, And their flesh like dung." 18 Neither their silver nor their gold Shall be able to deliver them In the day of the YHWH's wrath;

maybe,Allah has countless names I just dont know what YHWH means because I havent seens this name in Quran

 

[yaqovzadeek]

This was taken from another thread on the Christ-ian theology board and I would like to hear Muslim responses to it. Thanks and Peace.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5135258&page=15
Allah


I've read MANY threads on this forum where people refer to Allah as the God of the Muslim's as if this is a proper name of some "false god" and that is just not true, so I would really like to set the record straight and educate those who are unaware of the fact that "Allah" is the ARABIC WORD ~for~ GOD.

Just as "Dios" is the SPANISH word for GOD.

And "Dieu" is the FRENCH word for GOD.

"Allah" is the ARABIC word for GOD.

It is not the "proper name" of a particular Islamic God connected only to Muslims. Even Arabic CHRISTIANS use the word "Allah" to refer to GOD. The Aramaic BIBLE uses the word "Allah" for GOD, as it is the Arabic word ~for~ God.

I would just like to ask that we please keep that in mind when making statements about Muslims and "false gods" so that we don't insult our Arabic brothers and sisters in CHRIST because of our lack of knowledge on this subject.

Many thanks!!

Just alittle correction here my friend little lamb. Allah is his name.His proper name, however GOD in Arabic means Ilah.In Aramaic Alaha and in Hebrow Eloi.
peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the just

 

[TJRich]

If Muslims refer to their god as the god of Abraham as well as the Jewish and Christians would all three religions be certian sects of the original, such as Eastern Orthodox to Roman Catholicism?

 

[peepnklown]

Do Jews worship the God of Abraham?
Do Christians worship the God of Abraham?
Do Muslims worship the God of Abraham?
YES!

 

[traversinginfinity]

maybe,Allah has countless names I just dont know what YHWH means because I havent seens this name in Quran

YHWH is the English form of the Tetragrammaton. It is just the personal name of the God of Abraham found in the Old Testament, and in most English translations it is simply translated as "The LORD" with "LORD" being in all capitals indicating that it is referring to the Tetragrammaton, or the name of God.

 

[anatolian]

YHWH is the English form of the Tetragrammaton. It is just the personal name of the God of Abraham found in the Old Testament, and in most English translations it is simply translated as "The LORD" with "LORD" being in all capitals indicating that it is referring to the Tetragrammaton, or the name of God.

thanks

 

[seekingpurity047]

Jesus is God. Muslims don't believe Jesus is God. Therefore, Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians.

 

[Iollain]

This was taken from another thread on the Christ-ian theology board and I would like to hear Muslim responses to it. Thanks and Peace.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5135258&page=15
Allah


I've read MANY threads on this forum where people refer to Allah as the God of the Muslim's as if this is a proper name of some "false god" and that is just not true, so I would really like to set the record straight and educate those who are unaware of the fact that "Allah" is the ARABIC WORD ~for~ GOD.

Just as "Dios" is the SPANISH word for GOD.

And "Dieu" is the FRENCH word for GOD.

"Allah" is the ARABIC word for GOD.

It is not the "proper name" of a particular Islamic God connected only to Muslims. Even Arabic CHRISTIANS use the word "Allah" to refer to GOD. The Aramaic BIBLE uses the word "Allah" for GOD, as it is the Arabic word ~for~ God.

I would just like to ask that we please keep that in mind when making statements about Muslims and "false gods" so that we don't insult our Arabic brothers and sisters in CHRIST because of our lack of knowledge on this subject.

Many thanks!!

I'd have to say no because Jesus is not just a prophet and God knows that, He is the Son of God, and God all by Himself.