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Willie Nelson: Twin Towers Were Imploded On 9/11
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<blockquote data-quote="Btodd" data-source="post: 43673495" data-attributes="member: 14939"><p>Isn't telling the truth to what degree, Joe? I have no doubts that they've tried to cover their incompetence, but that's not what you're talking about when you reference how the buildings fell. That's conspiracy talk, so let's be honest here. Your poll isn't reflective of conspiracy, but of doubt about being told the truth about incompetence as well. Big difference. </p><p></p><p>Also, after 44 years, something like 75% of people believe Kennedy was killed by a variety of sources other than Oswald. So what? Where's the evidence for another scenario? Lots of people believe in special creation over evolution, too. Do you support teaching Intelligent Design in the schools, or do you recognize the point I'm making?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are appealing to authority (and numbers), only the authorities cited are almost never relevant to the subject matter. It's a smokescreen, and it's undeniable mimicry of creationism-style arguments should give you serious pause. If those non-structural engineers have an alternative scenario on how they fell, have they submitted papers on them? Why aren't structural engineers coming out of the woodwork if the collapses were so implausible? For the same reason that Biologists aren't up in arms about Evolution being false.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You 'heard' it wasn't mentioned, or you read the report to find out what it says, and were surprised that building 7 wasn't in there? No offense, but most likely, you never read it and are merely repeating what you've heard from conspiracy sources. Incidentally, it isn't in there. Why is it important to the 9/11 Commission? </p><p></p><p> What does building 7 falling mean, Joe? I don't mind answering questions about the fall itself, but what does it mean if you don't accept the natural explanation for it? That they blew up a building after evacuating all it's people and announcing it would fall?</p><p></p><p>It doesn't make any sense in the first place, despite having no evidence to support it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Btodd</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Btodd, post: 43673495, member: 14939"] Isn't telling the truth to what degree, Joe? I have no doubts that they've tried to cover their incompetence, but that's not what you're talking about when you reference how the buildings fell. That's conspiracy talk, so let's be honest here. Your poll isn't reflective of conspiracy, but of doubt about being told the truth about incompetence as well. Big difference. Also, after 44 years, something like 75% of people believe Kennedy was killed by a variety of sources other than Oswald. So what? Where's the evidence for another scenario? Lots of people believe in special creation over evolution, too. Do you support teaching Intelligent Design in the schools, or do you recognize the point I'm making? You are appealing to authority (and numbers), only the authorities cited are almost never relevant to the subject matter. It's a smokescreen, and it's undeniable mimicry of creationism-style arguments should give you serious pause. If those non-structural engineers have an alternative scenario on how they fell, have they submitted papers on them? Why aren't structural engineers coming out of the woodwork if the collapses were so implausible? For the same reason that Biologists aren't up in arms about Evolution being false.:) You 'heard' it wasn't mentioned, or you read the report to find out what it says, and were surprised that building 7 wasn't in there? No offense, but most likely, you never read it and are merely repeating what you've heard from conspiracy sources. Incidentally, it isn't in there. Why is it important to the 9/11 Commission? What does building 7 falling mean, Joe? I don't mind answering questions about the fall itself, but what does it mean if you don't accept the natural explanation for it? That they blew up a building after evacuating all it's people and announcing it would fall? It doesn't make any sense in the first place, despite having no evidence to support it. Btodd [/QUOTE]
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