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Why is rape not being taking seriously?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gadarene" data-source="post: 64738535" data-attributes="member: 306152"><p>Quite easily - removal of presumption of innocence in one case would also set a worrying precedent, and I'd love to know how people pushing for this think it definitely won't return to bite them in the posterior at a later date.</p><p></p><p>Removal of this would actually make us more likely to end up in the kind of society described by those in objection to such a move - one where it is simply sufficient to make an accusation in order to get someone convicted. </p><p></p><p>You would be increasing the number of innocent people punished by the system, which is what presumption of innocence works to minimise. It is a fundamental right of most democracies, and asking that it be removed for one group alone is not equality. It is <strong>entitlement</strong>.</p><p></p><p>And as a side note, given that most people arguing for removal of presumption of innocence think rape is a gendered crime (i.e. it being something men do), I don't see how one can argue that demanding removal of presumption of innocence in rape cases is anything other than sexist.</p><p></p><p>There are of course problems with the prosecuting of rape, but that doesn't justify increasing injustice in some misguided attempt to compensate for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadarene, post: 64738535, member: 306152"] Quite easily - removal of presumption of innocence in one case would also set a worrying precedent, and I'd love to know how people pushing for this think it definitely won't return to bite them in the posterior at a later date. Removal of this would actually make us more likely to end up in the kind of society described by those in objection to such a move - one where it is simply sufficient to make an accusation in order to get someone convicted. You would be increasing the number of innocent people punished by the system, which is what presumption of innocence works to minimise. It is a fundamental right of most democracies, and asking that it be removed for one group alone is not equality. It is [b]entitlement[/b]. And as a side note, given that most people arguing for removal of presumption of innocence think rape is a gendered crime (i.e. it being something men do), I don't see how one can argue that demanding removal of presumption of innocence in rape cases is anything other than sexist. There are of course problems with the prosecuting of rape, but that doesn't justify increasing injustice in some misguided attempt to compensate for it. [/QUOTE]
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