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What "trigger warnings" mean to me.
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<blockquote data-quote="MehGuy" data-source="post: 71999364" data-attributes="member: 196790"><p><u><strong>Yes.</strong></u></p><p></p><p>For some women at least. This includes men too, such as myself. Although for whatever reason I see men express this far less. The sadomasochistic forums/scenes I frequent do contain a lot of such males. Biologically it does seem to go against our gender roles. At least to take away the victim-hood monopoly from women.</p><p></p><p>Sadly I was engaging in a lot of SJW behavior myself before I ever heard of the term, only difference was I was a white male engaging in this. Lol. The behavior of modern feminist actually make much sense to me psychologically.</p><p></p><p>One avenue I do see emotionally masochistic men express themselves is in religions like Christianity. There is certainly a persecution/martyr complex crowd to be found there. Not surprising that a religion that often has a pathological focus on a brutal execution and glorifies martyrs would be a hotbed of such behavior. Lol.</p><p></p><p>Most of my emotional masochism was expressed in the light of Christianity. As a male that's a socially acceptable avenue for such expression.</p><p></p><p>Christianity and feminism/SJWism seem to both stress high empathy. Sadly this empathy is often used in a selfish way. In many outlets of Christianity, Christian suffering is sacred, while in feminism female suffering is sacred. Both seem to have a problem of pathological gratuitous obsession with victim-hood.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From browsing emotional masochistic forums.. these people exist.</p><p></p><p>I'd say much less exist when they're actually being raped. Although it's hard to imagine why so many feminists get so offended when a man tries to speak about being a victim of whatever (sexual assault, domestic violence). How isn't this a movement that wants to have a monopoly on victim-hood? And why would they want it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly not all, although I'd think we'd be missing out on a discussion if we didn't include in the dialog those who might get off on it. Those who are most likely to take things like trigger warnings too far.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why wouldn't they? I can see feminist men choosing not too. Although not men who actually do go against traditional gender roles and seek sympathy and understanding for their problems. Even if it goes against popular feminist sentiments.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm glad that it didn't effect you (how serious was this accusation?), sadly I've heard from other men where it did. Honestly it's pretty ridiculous to say that not wanting to see scenes of men being accused of sexual assault wouldn't be trigger warning worthy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe. Admittedly I don't have much research on my side (or maybe I'm not good at finding it.. lol), although I was just sharing my perspective and why the topic of trigger warnings bothers me.</p><p></p><p>Anyways this chat with you has reminded me why I have little sympathy for trigger warnings. Why don't you people actually show me that you'll apply compassion equally and maybe I and others won't feel that trigger warnings are just the decadent whining of Western women.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MehGuy, post: 71999364, member: 196790"] [U][B]Yes.[/B][/U] For some women at least. This includes men too, such as myself. Although for whatever reason I see men express this far less. The sadomasochistic forums/scenes I frequent do contain a lot of such males. Biologically it does seem to go against our gender roles. At least to take away the victim-hood monopoly from women. Sadly I was engaging in a lot of SJW behavior myself before I ever heard of the term, only difference was I was a white male engaging in this. Lol. The behavior of modern feminist actually make much sense to me psychologically. One avenue I do see emotionally masochistic men express themselves is in religions like Christianity. There is certainly a persecution/martyr complex crowd to be found there. Not surprising that a religion that often has a pathological focus on a brutal execution and glorifies martyrs would be a hotbed of such behavior. Lol. Most of my emotional masochism was expressed in the light of Christianity. As a male that's a socially acceptable avenue for such expression. Christianity and feminism/SJWism seem to both stress high empathy. Sadly this empathy is often used in a selfish way. In many outlets of Christianity, Christian suffering is sacred, while in feminism female suffering is sacred. Both seem to have a problem of pathological gratuitous obsession with victim-hood. From browsing emotional masochistic forums.. these people exist. I'd say much less exist when they're actually being raped. Although it's hard to imagine why so many feminists get so offended when a man tries to speak about being a victim of whatever (sexual assault, domestic violence). How isn't this a movement that wants to have a monopoly on victim-hood? And why would they want it? Certainly not all, although I'd think we'd be missing out on a discussion if we didn't include in the dialog those who might get off on it. Those who are most likely to take things like trigger warnings too far. Why wouldn't they? I can see feminist men choosing not too. Although not men who actually do go against traditional gender roles and seek sympathy and understanding for their problems. Even if it goes against popular feminist sentiments. I'm glad that it didn't effect you (how serious was this accusation?), sadly I've heard from other men where it did. Honestly it's pretty ridiculous to say that not wanting to see scenes of men being accused of sexual assault wouldn't be trigger warning worthy. Maybe. Admittedly I don't have much research on my side (or maybe I'm not good at finding it.. lol), although I was just sharing my perspective and why the topic of trigger warnings bothers me. Anyways this chat with you has reminded me why I have little sympathy for trigger warnings. Why don't you people actually show me that you'll apply compassion equally and maybe I and others won't feel that trigger warnings are just the decadent whining of Western women. [/QUOTE]
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