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What "trigger warnings" mean to me.
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<blockquote data-quote="Gadarene" data-source="post: 71999354" data-attributes="member: 306152"><p>Sorry, it’s ‘only’ 30% according to this one paper, my bad lol</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Try challenging the party line on gender a bit more, for example. Look at the emotive language when women demand something to solve some women’s issue, or as a response to some bit of ‘misogynist’ language, then look at how they respond to men asking for the same sort of thing.</p><p></p><p>Again, I’ve no idea why you think the inclusion of a colloquial qualifier is an attempt to add gravitas.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which way? It’s damseling. That isn’t new behaviour, that’s patriarchal behaviour. It’s the same old same old. ‘My Honour has been besmirched! Why aren’t you men helping me? You’re bad for not helping me!” Look at how even supposedly gender egalitarian women talk to men, in ways that they do not talk to other women. It’s the same problem being spun as a solution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was referring there to minor issues, like mean tweets, or whatever is ‘problematic’ du jour. Obviously suicidal ideation is, or pertains to, something that’s actually serious.</p><p></p><p>Take the mean tweets issue. Notable (usually liberal) woman gets mean tweets, all hell breaks loose, The Internet Is A Hostile Place For Women, ban people for wrongthink, etc. Men - who are more likely than women to receive actual threats online, incidentally - they get crappy tweets and....nothing. No similar hand-wringing, no suggestion The Internet Is A Hostile Place For Men.</p><p></p><p>And this is good. A bit more resilience would do these women some good. Again, no-one has to go full male-stoic, that’s not healthy, but it does encourage me than men are not going around getting triggered over trivialities to the extent that it seems women are. But then people will hardly fail to notice that men are coping far better with a ‘problem’ than women are, and yet we’re being constantly told the genders are equal. I don’t get why men are expected to care about - say - mean tweets, when few care when it happens to us. Women on the whole certainly don’t.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gosh, it’s almost as if which subset of a group affected by an issue we choose to use as our basis for setting out trigger warnings is completely arbitrary, as i’ve been saying all along.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadarene, post: 71999354, member: 306152"] Sorry, it’s ‘only’ 30% according to this one paper, my bad lol Try challenging the party line on gender a bit more, for example. Look at the emotive language when women demand something to solve some women’s issue, or as a response to some bit of ‘misogynist’ language, then look at how they respond to men asking for the same sort of thing. Again, I’ve no idea why you think the inclusion of a colloquial qualifier is an attempt to add gravitas. Which way? It’s damseling. That isn’t new behaviour, that’s patriarchal behaviour. It’s the same old same old. ‘My Honour has been besmirched! Why aren’t you men helping me? You’re bad for not helping me!” Look at how even supposedly gender egalitarian women talk to men, in ways that they do not talk to other women. It’s the same problem being spun as a solution. I was referring there to minor issues, like mean tweets, or whatever is ‘problematic’ du jour. Obviously suicidal ideation is, or pertains to, something that’s actually serious. Take the mean tweets issue. Notable (usually liberal) woman gets mean tweets, all hell breaks loose, The Internet Is A Hostile Place For Women, ban people for wrongthink, etc. Men - who are more likely than women to receive actual threats online, incidentally - they get crappy tweets and....nothing. No similar hand-wringing, no suggestion The Internet Is A Hostile Place For Men. And this is good. A bit more resilience would do these women some good. Again, no-one has to go full male-stoic, that’s not healthy, but it does encourage me than men are not going around getting triggered over trivialities to the extent that it seems women are. But then people will hardly fail to notice that men are coping far better with a ‘problem’ than women are, and yet we’re being constantly told the genders are equal. I don’t get why men are expected to care about - say - mean tweets, when few care when it happens to us. Women on the whole certainly don’t. Gosh, it’s almost as if which subset of a group affected by an issue we choose to use as our basis for setting out trigger warnings is completely arbitrary, as i’ve been saying all along..... [/QUOTE]
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