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<blockquote data-quote="BlandOatmeal" data-source="post: 62593758" data-attributes="member: 137411"><p>Hi, Zaz. I agree with you, in those areas that I can verify. As for how virtually all Muslim leaders wanting to be the one to be seen as defeating Israel, I don't know. What amazes me, is that countries across the globe which have virtually no connection with Israel, places like Swaziland, Uruguay and China, are in lock step in the UN, in voting for resolution after resolution condemning Israel for things that in most countries don't even make the news</p><p></p><p>Supreme's logic has no place here. By his reasoning, Adolph Hitler could have been described as a peace-loving man in 1937, because he hadn't killed any Jews and hadn't made war with anyone. Yet Hitler in his 1937 rendition was the very same person, spewing forth the exact same antiSemitic vitriol, in 1939 and 1941 as he was in 1937. What he said, and what Erdogan is saying, is not simply "stupid stuff". <span style="color: Blue"><strong>It is incitement to genocide.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><strong></strong><span style="color: Black">P. S. I'm curious about your "vultures" quote. Isaiah 34 comes to mind:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><span style="color: Black">Isa 34</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue"><span style="color: Black"></span></span>[<strong>8</strong>] For it is <span style="color: Red"><strong>the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion</strong></span>.</p><p>[<strong>9</strong>] And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.</p><p>[<strong>10</strong>] It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.</p><p>[<strong>11</strong>] But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness.</p><p>[<strong>12</strong>] They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.</p><p>[<strong>13</strong>] And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.</p><p>[<strong>14</strong>] The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.</p><p>[<strong>15</strong>] There shall the great owl make her nest, and lay, and hatch, and gather under her shadow: <span style="color: Red"><strong>there shall the vultures also be gathered</strong></span>, every one with her mate.</p><p>[<strong>16</strong>] Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.</p><p>[<strong>17</strong>] And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein.</p><p></p><p>I believe "The Controversy of Zion" is what we are talking about, with all this condemnation around the world against Zionism. The thing that is offensive to the Chinese, to the Zimbabweans and to the Jamaicans alike, is not that the Jews should be granted a homeland, though that would probably be sufficient to incite many. It is their return to Zion, according to Biblical prophecy, that has every devil and every world leader losing sleep. They know that if God's word concerning the Jewish people is still active and powerful after 2,000 and 3,000 years, they need to fear the reach of the King of the Universe.</p><p></p><p>Despite Supreme's insistence that those folks are just "saying stupid things", those leaders are not stupid; they fear something very real, and are warring against it; and the time is fast approaching, that they will convert their words into deadly action. And the vultures will indeed gather. The "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" will come, and the birds of the air will eat the flesh of kings, and of the mighty of the earth.</p><p></p><p>Rev 19</p><p>[<strong>18</strong>] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlandOatmeal, post: 62593758, member: 137411"] Hi, Zaz. I agree with you, in those areas that I can verify. As for how virtually all Muslim leaders wanting to be the one to be seen as defeating Israel, I don't know. What amazes me, is that countries across the globe which have virtually no connection with Israel, places like Swaziland, Uruguay and China, are in lock step in the UN, in voting for resolution after resolution condemning Israel for things that in most countries don't even make the news Supreme's logic has no place here. By his reasoning, Adolph Hitler could have been described as a peace-loving man in 1937, because he hadn't killed any Jews and hadn't made war with anyone. Yet Hitler in his 1937 rendition was the very same person, spewing forth the exact same antiSemitic vitriol, in 1939 and 1941 as he was in 1937. What he said, and what Erdogan is saying, is not simply "stupid stuff". [COLOR=Blue][B]It is incitement to genocide. [/B][COLOR=Black]P. S. I'm curious about your "vultures" quote. Isaiah 34 comes to mind: Isa 34 [/COLOR][/COLOR][[B]8[/B]] For it is [COLOR=Red][B]the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion[/B][/COLOR]. [[B]9[/B]] And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. [[B]10[/B]] It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever. [[B]11[/B]] But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness. [[B]12[/B]] They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing. [[B]13[/B]] And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls. [[B]14[/B]] The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest. [[B]15[/B]] There shall the great owl make her nest, and lay, and hatch, and gather under her shadow: [COLOR=Red][B]there shall the vultures also be gathered[/B][/COLOR], every one with her mate. [[B]16[/B]] Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. [[B]17[/B]] And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein. I believe "The Controversy of Zion" is what we are talking about, with all this condemnation around the world against Zionism. The thing that is offensive to the Chinese, to the Zimbabweans and to the Jamaicans alike, is not that the Jews should be granted a homeland, though that would probably be sufficient to incite many. It is their return to Zion, according to Biblical prophecy, that has every devil and every world leader losing sleep. They know that if God's word concerning the Jewish people is still active and powerful after 2,000 and 3,000 years, they need to fear the reach of the King of the Universe. Despite Supreme's insistence that those folks are just "saying stupid things", those leaders are not stupid; they fear something very real, and are warring against it; and the time is fast approaching, that they will convert their words into deadly action. And the vultures will indeed gather. The "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" will come, and the birds of the air will eat the flesh of kings, and of the mighty of the earth. Rev 19 [[B]18[/B]] That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. [/QUOTE]
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