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The USA has grounded its entire fleet of F-35 fighter jets
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<blockquote data-quote="Biblicist" data-source="post: 68216677" data-attributes="member: 281049"><p>Hey, I'm always happy to see remarks that might help me to believe that our multi-billion dollar investment might have some value.</p><p></p><p>I can see a <em>possible</em> problem with the idea that guns might be a thing of the past which I recall was either the intentional or unintential plan of the US Air Force prior to Vietnam in the mid 60's. It seemed that the US pilots were not effectively trained in dogfighting which saw many North Vietnamese pilots shooting down more US aircraft than they were losing in the air; this policy was quickly rectified.</p><p></p><p>Of course the big question is, once both sides fire their missiles and where each side could have a number of aircraft surviving, as the Sukhoi can outchase and out manouver the F-35 it seems that their guns might just be the deciding factor.</p><p></p><p>As the Sukhoi apparently carries missiles that will outdistance the F-35's missiles and that the Sukhoi can travel faster with a longer combat range, it seems that the F-35 is not a match here either.</p><p></p><p>It's too bad that Australia is not buying the Sukhoi PAK FA as we could easily move a squadron north where we could maybe help the US Air Force by acting as buffer zone between the their fighters and the new Chinese Fifth Gen fighters in the newly disputed South China Sea. As Indonesia is apparently buying 50 Sukhoi's, maybe they could do the job for both the US and Australia -- how the world is changing!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Biblicist, post: 68216677, member: 281049"] Hey, I'm always happy to see remarks that might help me to believe that our multi-billion dollar investment might have some value. I can see a [I]possible[/I] problem with the idea that guns might be a thing of the past which I recall was either the intentional or unintential plan of the US Air Force prior to Vietnam in the mid 60's. It seemed that the US pilots were not effectively trained in dogfighting which saw many North Vietnamese pilots shooting down more US aircraft than they were losing in the air; this policy was quickly rectified. Of course the big question is, once both sides fire their missiles and where each side could have a number of aircraft surviving, as the Sukhoi can outchase and out manouver the F-35 it seems that their guns might just be the deciding factor. As the Sukhoi apparently carries missiles that will outdistance the F-35's missiles and that the Sukhoi can travel faster with a longer combat range, it seems that the F-35 is not a match here either. It's too bad that Australia is not buying the Sukhoi PAK FA as we could easily move a squadron north where we could maybe help the US Air Force by acting as buffer zone between the their fighters and the new Chinese Fifth Gen fighters in the newly disputed South China Sea. As Indonesia is apparently buying 50 Sukhoi's, maybe they could do the job for both the US and Australia -- how the world is changing! [/QUOTE]
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