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The "Nephilim" what were/are they?
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<blockquote data-quote="PureDose" data-source="post: 61455081" data-attributes="member: 315769"><p>I would be lying if I were to say I have not considered most of those concepts. You do present it in a coherent manner. But, I do not know on most of those things.</p><p></p><p>I do not even know for sure if the Nephilim were literally Fallen Angels. I will state, again and again.</p><p></p><p>Why I do know angels can be in a body and at the same time outside of that body is by simple observation. They are able to run multiple events at the same time, and even one spirit may inhabit multiple bodies, such as what happened when King Ahab was deceived by the spirit who "became a lying spirit in the mouths of the prophets".</p><p></p><p>In one instance there, the one spirit inhabited multiple prophets so it is written multiple prophets all were saying the same things at the same time. Though, on retrospect, it may have gone from body to body.</p><p></p><p>And the prophets just carried it on.</p><p></p><p>Though, the concept of a singular spirit inhabiting multiple bodies is far from foreign, though the only case *I* am sure with this is by the Spirit of God, as He inhabits many saints and angels at the very same time.</p><p></p><p>So that it is said of the end times, 'they move as one, in lockstep'.</p><p></p><p>Though, likewise, it is said of Satan he is "not just one person", as like God, Satan has many angels of his own. (Revelation 12.)</p><p></p><p>Though this can all get into conglomerate entity matters which is truly strange.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, angels can create whatever bodies they wish, and there are countless reports of this. They operate not unlike how a spy or undercover cop operates. They have that same sort of moral code, same concepts of "legends" supporting their false identities, and same sort of molding into the roles they go into -- with strong exceptions that they do so perfectly, whereas as people are very poor at acting and molding themselves into roles.</p><p></p><p>Angels, being spirits, are essentially telepathic.</p><p></p><p>They can in human disguise be indirect, rhetorical, and sarcastic to the point of making any manner of argument for cover reasons or for reasons of bringing about the *opposite response*.</p><p></p><p>In an authorized role, judging the moral plays, is extremely difficult. Because they can say and do what appears to be the opposite of what is legally and morally right to say and do -- on the surface. In reality, in such cases, they are either making the opposite point, or showing a person's own foolishness up, or playing a role and keeping cover. </p><p></p><p>An angel can take the disguise of a man or woman, and otherwise, I have no idea of what disguise they might take. </p><p></p><p>An angel can also speak through a person or direct a person.</p><p></p><p>Routinely, people hear from angels internally and mistake these as their own, internal voice.</p><p></p><p>I initially thought it was impossible for angels to be on the ground for extended periods. I now know this to be incorrect. Actually, one angel actually pointed out to me what I myself believed, that this is unlikely and not heard of in Scripture.</p><p></p><p>It actually is heard of in Scripture, however. In just one place, at the end of the age.</p><p></p><p>From my observations, angels do not have the same carnal appetites as human beings doing when in the flesh, though they can fake this. </p><p></p><p>(But so do we.)</p><p></p><p>The difference seems to be whether they have "left their authorized place" or not. If a cop goes undercover or a spy goes undercover, either way, they are operating under the aegis of their government. If they do this without that aegis, they have gone rogue.</p><p></p><p>It used to be told to people in America, and likely other Western countries, that spies and undercover cops never did anything that really impressed themselves on the people they were investigating or aiding. That they would hold to certain rules and be very straight.</p><p></p><p>In the US, this was a lie perpetuated by Hoover who claimed that he was against undercover agents because "that is a dirty business". </p><p></p><p>Really, anything anyone does or says is not necessarily what it appears to be on the surface.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PureDose, post: 61455081, member: 315769"] I would be lying if I were to say I have not considered most of those concepts. You do present it in a coherent manner. But, I do not know on most of those things. I do not even know for sure if the Nephilim were literally Fallen Angels. I will state, again and again. Why I do know angels can be in a body and at the same time outside of that body is by simple observation. They are able to run multiple events at the same time, and even one spirit may inhabit multiple bodies, such as what happened when King Ahab was deceived by the spirit who "became a lying spirit in the mouths of the prophets". In one instance there, the one spirit inhabited multiple prophets so it is written multiple prophets all were saying the same things at the same time. Though, on retrospect, it may have gone from body to body. And the prophets just carried it on. Though, the concept of a singular spirit inhabiting multiple bodies is far from foreign, though the only case *I* am sure with this is by the Spirit of God, as He inhabits many saints and angels at the very same time. So that it is said of the end times, 'they move as one, in lockstep'. Though, likewise, it is said of Satan he is "not just one person", as like God, Satan has many angels of his own. (Revelation 12.) Though this can all get into conglomerate entity matters which is truly strange. Otherwise, angels can create whatever bodies they wish, and there are countless reports of this. They operate not unlike how a spy or undercover cop operates. They have that same sort of moral code, same concepts of "legends" supporting their false identities, and same sort of molding into the roles they go into -- with strong exceptions that they do so perfectly, whereas as people are very poor at acting and molding themselves into roles. Angels, being spirits, are essentially telepathic. They can in human disguise be indirect, rhetorical, and sarcastic to the point of making any manner of argument for cover reasons or for reasons of bringing about the *opposite response*. In an authorized role, judging the moral plays, is extremely difficult. Because they can say and do what appears to be the opposite of what is legally and morally right to say and do -- on the surface. In reality, in such cases, they are either making the opposite point, or showing a person's own foolishness up, or playing a role and keeping cover. An angel can take the disguise of a man or woman, and otherwise, I have no idea of what disguise they might take. An angel can also speak through a person or direct a person. Routinely, people hear from angels internally and mistake these as their own, internal voice. I initially thought it was impossible for angels to be on the ground for extended periods. I now know this to be incorrect. Actually, one angel actually pointed out to me what I myself believed, that this is unlikely and not heard of in Scripture. It actually is heard of in Scripture, however. In just one place, at the end of the age. From my observations, angels do not have the same carnal appetites as human beings doing when in the flesh, though they can fake this. (But so do we.) The difference seems to be whether they have "left their authorized place" or not. If a cop goes undercover or a spy goes undercover, either way, they are operating under the aegis of their government. If they do this without that aegis, they have gone rogue. It used to be told to people in America, and likely other Western countries, that spies and undercover cops never did anything that really impressed themselves on the people they were investigating or aiding. That they would hold to certain rules and be very straight. In the US, this was a lie perpetuated by Hoover who claimed that he was against undercover agents because "that is a dirty business". Really, anything anyone does or says is not necessarily what it appears to be on the surface. [/QUOTE]
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