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The "Nephilim" what were/are they?
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<blockquote data-quote="PureDose" data-source="post: 61418865" data-attributes="member: 315769"><p>These tend to be the reasons we believe they are fallen angels:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>One of the most bizarre verses by Paul, if not the most bizarre, states that women should cover their heads when praying "because of the angels":</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That could mean something else, I do not know. From my own observation, women are very attractive with their heads uncovered, and that gets really toned down when they wear hats. </p><p></p><p>Not exactly a non-universal understanding, we are all well aware of the head covering beliefs of Muslims.</p><p></p><p>Christians generally ignore this as it was a signal of the times.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The term used for "sons of God" is <em>"ben elohiym"</em> in the original hebrew (Blue Letter Bible).</p><p></p><p>This same term is used for angels in the Old Testament:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Enoch, whether true or not, is dated very old and says they were angels as well, so this is not some manner of new interpretation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Peter and Jude both report this, though it could just be a coincidence Peter mentions the condemnation of the flood after mentioning "the angels who fell".</p><p></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>This also seems to tie into the ones imprisoned in what Peter says here.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Many died before Christ, why did Jesus specifically go and preach to the spirits imprisoned after dying in the flood?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Because they were a special case. They were fallen angels.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>So, there are many reasons why we tend to believe that these were angels.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The term "sons of God" in the Old Testament is never used for people. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>If the Bible said, "men went and slept with women and bore them children who were giants"... that would be very different.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>There is also a great deal of evidence of the ancient world that there were phenomenal people who lived back then... people who were able to build and do things which seem very impossible for ordinary mortals.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PureDose, post: 61418865, member: 315769"] These tend to be the reasons we believe they are fallen angels: One of the most bizarre verses by Paul, if not the most bizarre, states that women should cover their heads when praying "because of the angels": That could mean something else, I do not know. From my own observation, women are very attractive with their heads uncovered, and that gets really toned down when they wear hats. Not exactly a non-universal understanding, we are all well aware of the head covering beliefs of Muslims. Christians generally ignore this as it was a signal of the times. The term used for "sons of God" is [I]"ben elohiym"[/I] in the original hebrew (Blue Letter Bible). This same term is used for angels in the Old Testament: Enoch, whether true or not, is dated very old and says they were angels as well, so this is not some manner of new interpretation. Peter and Jude both report this, though it could just be a coincidence Peter mentions the condemnation of the flood after mentioning "the angels who fell". [b] This also seems to tie into the ones imprisoned in what Peter says here. Many died before Christ, why did Jesus specifically go and preach to the spirits imprisoned after dying in the flood? Because they were a special case. They were fallen angels. So, there are many reasons why we tend to believe that these were angels. The term "sons of God" in the Old Testament is never used for people. If the Bible said, "men went and slept with women and bore them children who were giants"... that would be very different. There is also a great deal of evidence of the ancient world that there were phenomenal people who lived back then... people who were able to build and do things which seem very impossible for ordinary mortals.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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