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<blockquote data-quote="dad" data-source="post: 57783041" data-attributes="member: 98011"><p>Originally Posted by <strong>Frumious Bandersnatch</strong> <a href="http://www.christianforums.com/t7447827-37/#post57782882" target="_blank"><img src="http://http.cdnlayer.com/cf/style/buttons/viewpost.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a><p style="margin-left: 20px"> Of course it was blocked then. You can't use your imaginary split to try to justify interpretations of data to justify your imaginary split.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>You know this? You can't use an imaginary same state past to to justify interpretations of data! All I say is that I don't know any more than you do. In fact, if the site is post split, we might have to look at a winter solstice. But we can't impose the one preferred solstice over some other one purely on a hunch, and same state beliefs.</p><p> </p><p> As I also linked to recently, they say that a structure used to be there that probably also obstructed the view....how would we know that...it ain't there any more!?</p><p> </p><p>"Prior to the erection of the obelisk Thutmosis&#8217; grandfather Thutmosis III had erected a festival hall called the &#8216;Akh-menu&#8217; across the rear of the temple and there is <strong>no evidence that it would have permitted the solstitial sun to be seen</strong> from within the barque sanctuary of Amun after its construction.<span style="font-size: 18px"> <span style="color: Navy"><em><u>Yet prior to the erection of these monuments the situation </u></em><strong><em><u>is not so clear.</u></em></strong> "</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.kch42.dial.pipex.com/egyptarticle_temple_orient2.html" target="_blank">Egyptian Temple Orientation and Alignment - Solar Alignments</a></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>False! The 65 data pints are all we need. Why harp on Kanak, which is somewhat in the shadows of time?? You want to impose your interpretation on the cosmic alignments of that time and place, which are too fuzzy to be known. Then you want to look at only the imaginary results, and make a silly X way out of place near your line? You haven't even explained why we would stick it up there even if it was a winter solstice alignment!!? So....why??</p><p> </p><p> Very little variation?????? Look again! </p><p> </p><p> <img src="http://www.setterfield.org/clip_image004_0012.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p> Do you have a date for the thing in your opinion???<p style="margin-left: 20px"> </p><p>So what do you claim the correct date<strong> is</strong>?????</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As we get into the mists of time, things become less known.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]<span style="font-size: 10px">'Just north of the Temple of Amun-Ra, are the foundations of an earlier, but also central and primary, temple dedicated to the god Montu. Little remains of this temple, not because it was weathered by the elements, but rather because it was systematically deconstructed and its building stones used in the construction of other temples. According to Schwaller de Lubicz, this mysterious dismantling of temples, found at Karnak and numerous other places in Egypt, has to do with the changing of the astrological cycles. The supplanting of the bull of Montu with the ram of Amon coincides with the astronomical shift from the age of Taurus, the bull, to the age of Aries, the ram; the earlier temple of Montu had lost its significance with the astronomical change and thus a new temple was <strong>constructed to be used in alignment with the current configuration of the stars</strong>'.</span><span style="font-size: 9px">(4)</span>[/FONT]</p><p>[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] <span style="font-size: 10px">Montu was the original god in the Theban area. (Montu, originated in the form of a local solar god in Upper (southern) Egypt, apparently at Hermonthis (City of the Sun). His worship appears to have been exported to Thebes around the time of the 11th Dynasty. "</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egyptkarnak.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egyptkarnak.htm</a>[/FONT][/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dad, post: 57783041, member: 98011"] Originally Posted by [B]Frumious Bandersnatch[/B] [URL="http://www.christianforums.com/t7447827-37/#post57782882"][IMG]http://http.cdnlayer.com/cf/style/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL][INDENT] Of course it was blocked then. You can't use your imaginary split to try to justify interpretations of data to justify your imaginary split. [/INDENT]You know this? You can't use an imaginary same state past to to justify interpretations of data! All I say is that I don't know any more than you do. In fact, if the site is post split, we might have to look at a winter solstice. But we can't impose the one preferred solstice over some other one purely on a hunch, and same state beliefs. As I also linked to recently, they say that a structure used to be there that probably also obstructed the view....how would we know that...it ain't there any more!? "Prior to the erection of the obelisk Thutmosis’ grandfather Thutmosis III had erected a festival hall called the ‘Akh-menu’ across the rear of the temple and there is [B]no evidence that it would have permitted the solstitial sun to be seen[/B] from within the barque sanctuary of Amun after its construction.[SIZE=5] [COLOR=Navy][I][U]Yet prior to the erection of these monuments the situation [/U][/I][B][I][U]is not so clear.[/U][/I][/B] "[/COLOR][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.kch42.dial.pipex.com/egyptarticle_temple_orient2.html"]Egyptian Temple Orientation and Alignment - Solar Alignments[/URL] [INDENT] [/INDENT]False! The 65 data pints are all we need. Why harp on Kanak, which is somewhat in the shadows of time?? You want to impose your interpretation on the cosmic alignments of that time and place, which are too fuzzy to be known. Then you want to look at only the imaginary results, and make a silly X way out of place near your line? You haven't even explained why we would stick it up there even if it was a winter solstice alignment!!? So....why?? Very little variation?????? Look again! [IMG]http://www.setterfield.org/clip_image004_0012.jpg[/IMG] Do you have a date for the thing in your opinion???[INDENT] [/INDENT]So what do you claim the correct date[B] is[/B]????? As we get into the mists of time, things become less known. "[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=2]'Just north of the Temple of Amun-Ra, are the foundations of an earlier, but also central and primary, temple dedicated to the god Montu. Little remains of this temple, not because it was weathered by the elements, but rather because it was systematically deconstructed and its building stones used in the construction of other temples. According to Schwaller de Lubicz, this mysterious dismantling of temples, found at Karnak and numerous other places in Egypt, has to do with the changing of the astrological cycles. The supplanting of the bull of Montu with the ram of Amon coincides with the astronomical shift from the age of Taurus, the bull, to the age of Aries, the ram; the earlier temple of Montu had lost its significance with the astronomical change and thus a new temple was [B]constructed to be used in alignment with the current configuration of the stars[/B]'.[/SIZE][SIZE=1](4)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] [SIZE=2]Montu was the original god in the Theban area. (Montu, originated in the form of a local solar god in Upper (southern) Egypt, apparently at Hermonthis (City of the Sun). His worship appears to have been exported to Thebes around the time of the 11th Dynasty. "[/SIZE] [URL]http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egyptkarnak.htm[/URL][/FONT][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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