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<blockquote data-quote="Estrid" data-source="post: 76657420" data-attributes="member: 433007"><p>Ah ok.</p><p>There's several things to consider.</p><p>Start with some basic organic chemistry.</p><p></p><p>Complex organic molecules are known to form</p><p>spontaneously under a wide range of naturally occurring</p><p>conditions. Including amino acids on comets.</p><p>No organic molecules are assembled " by hand" in a lab, they</p><p>occur when the conditions are set.</p><p></p><p>Nobody knows what conditions existed on earth when life started.</p><p>But, given 330,000,000 cubic miles of ocean, many millions</p><p>of years, incredible fantasticatillion carbon, nitrogen owygen </p><p>and hydrogen atoms and ions, the speed withwhich</p><p>reactions occur, its not unreasonable to suppose</p><p>that anything that can happen will happen.</p><p></p><p>A fairly simple self replicating molecule ( there are</p><p>such things) would be a good start on life.</p><p>And, there being no bright line distinction between</p><p>life and non life, theres nobody to say at what point</p><p>a self reproducing structure is life, or not - yet life.</p><p></p><p>Today? Who knows. Nobody has happened upon lab</p><p>conditions that led to life.</p><p>Out there in the ocean? Any proto- life would not</p><p>stand a chance of developing, with all the hungry </p><p>microbes out there ready to eat it. Remember your</p><p>amoeba etc from high school biology?</p><p></p><p>And, of course, it would be extraordinarily difficult</p><p>to go out there and find your new forms, get them back to</p><p>a lab and identify them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Estrid, post: 76657420, member: 433007"] Ah ok. There's several things to consider. Start with some basic organic chemistry. Complex organic molecules are known to form spontaneously under a wide range of naturally occurring conditions. Including amino acids on comets. No organic molecules are assembled " by hand" in a lab, they occur when the conditions are set. Nobody knows what conditions existed on earth when life started. But, given 330,000,000 cubic miles of ocean, many millions of years, incredible fantasticatillion carbon, nitrogen owygen and hydrogen atoms and ions, the speed withwhich reactions occur, its not unreasonable to suppose that anything that can happen will happen. A fairly simple self replicating molecule ( there are such things) would be a good start on life. And, there being no bright line distinction between life and non life, theres nobody to say at what point a self reproducing structure is life, or not - yet life. Today? Who knows. Nobody has happened upon lab conditions that led to life. Out there in the ocean? Any proto- life would not stand a chance of developing, with all the hungry microbes out there ready to eat it. Remember your amoeba etc from high school biology? And, of course, it would be extraordinarily difficult to go out there and find your new forms, get them back to a lab and identify them. [/QUOTE]
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