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Some things I just don't think most of you understand...
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<blockquote data-quote="Justatruthseeker" data-source="post: 68397276" data-attributes="member: 332164"><p>First of all lets get one thing straight. I am certainly not arguing mankind's common ancestor did not live in the recent past, since Adam and Eve came about in the recent past. I only argue what those decedents were and how that common ancestor came about.</p><p></p><p>Secondly this means mutation is useless as we observe populations today - they are too large and no mutation will ever become fixed in the population. As of today - evolution by mutation is completely useless as a viable means of increasing the complexity of a population as their exists no mechanism for the sharing of this mutation to the populations at large since you reject LGT. And as I said earlier - if you accept it for one....</p><p></p><p>Tell us all how a mutation that beneficially affects Bob - is going to beneficially affect the rest of the population???? Go ahead, explain this to us. Don't run from it. So we can certainly conclude evolution is no longer a viable process with today's population and fixation within the population.</p><p></p><p>You ask us to believe in some mythical ancestor - just as you are claiming we do, but this seems to be ok for you to do so and call it science, while when others do its religion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>SHOW ME A SINGLE FOSSIL OF THIS COMMON ANCESTOR THAT SPLIT INTO HUMAN AND APE??????????</p><p></p><p></p><p>So you can't, can you. You don't even have a possible one do you. So it's all just wishful thinking and computer simulation right? We would get the same exact results if we started with Adam and Eve in those computer simulations, wouldn't we.</p><p></p><p>You are quite mistaken if you think anyone believes the population a few thousands of years ago was more than 2. But you have yet to show one single example of mating species where mutation was involved - except in your beliefs. Gene recombination occurs and new dominant and recessive traits become fixed. Not by mutation, but by natural processes built into the genomes.</p><p></p><p>But you are still avoiding discussing those Finches, even though I have given you opportunity to do so in every single post. Still fail to defend your claims of speciation occurring. Stop running.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justatruthseeker, post: 68397276, member: 332164"] First of all lets get one thing straight. I am certainly not arguing mankind's common ancestor did not live in the recent past, since Adam and Eve came about in the recent past. I only argue what those decedents were and how that common ancestor came about. Secondly this means mutation is useless as we observe populations today - they are too large and no mutation will ever become fixed in the population. As of today - evolution by mutation is completely useless as a viable means of increasing the complexity of a population as their exists no mechanism for the sharing of this mutation to the populations at large since you reject LGT. And as I said earlier - if you accept it for one.... Tell us all how a mutation that beneficially affects Bob - is going to beneficially affect the rest of the population???? Go ahead, explain this to us. Don't run from it. So we can certainly conclude evolution is no longer a viable process with today's population and fixation within the population. You ask us to believe in some mythical ancestor - just as you are claiming we do, but this seems to be ok for you to do so and call it science, while when others do its religion. SHOW ME A SINGLE FOSSIL OF THIS COMMON ANCESTOR THAT SPLIT INTO HUMAN AND APE?????????? So you can't, can you. You don't even have a possible one do you. So it's all just wishful thinking and computer simulation right? We would get the same exact results if we started with Adam and Eve in those computer simulations, wouldn't we. You are quite mistaken if you think anyone believes the population a few thousands of years ago was more than 2. But you have yet to show one single example of mating species where mutation was involved - except in your beliefs. Gene recombination occurs and new dominant and recessive traits become fixed. Not by mutation, but by natural processes built into the genomes. But you are still avoiding discussing those Finches, even though I have given you opportunity to do so in every single post. Still fail to defend your claims of speciation occurring. Stop running. [/QUOTE]
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