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<blockquote data-quote="MacFall" data-source="post: 54480382" data-attributes="member: 206437"><p>Not that I'm completely taking clirus' side here, but that leaves out an awful lot of context. Everyone quotes "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's", but hardly ever do they continue on to the second half: "and unto God, that which is God's".</p><p></p><p>Tiberius Caesar (whose portrait was on the coin under discussion) claimed to be a god, and according to him, EVERYTHING was his. The Jews, on the other hand, believed that God was God, and everything was his. It wasn't a sarcastic question, it was a very clear and frank challenge for the listeners to choose their allegiance, to God or to Caesar.</p><p></p><p>He never actually said that anyone should pay taxes to any particular ruler or state, because he never defined what, if anything, actually belonged to Caesar. And one can hardly assume that Caesar owns everything that Caesar claims, simply by virtue of his being Caesar and having laid his claws on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MacFall, post: 54480382, member: 206437"] Not that I'm completely taking clirus' side here, but that leaves out an awful lot of context. Everyone quotes "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's", but hardly ever do they continue on to the second half: "and unto God, that which is God's". Tiberius Caesar (whose portrait was on the coin under discussion) claimed to be a god, and according to him, EVERYTHING was his. The Jews, on the other hand, believed that God was God, and everything was his. It wasn't a sarcastic question, it was a very clear and frank challenge for the listeners to choose their allegiance, to God or to Caesar. He never actually said that anyone should pay taxes to any particular ruler or state, because he never defined what, if anything, actually belonged to Caesar. And one can hardly assume that Caesar owns everything that Caesar claims, simply by virtue of his being Caesar and having laid his claws on it. [/QUOTE]
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