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<blockquote data-quote="Archaeopteryx" data-source="post: 54476002" data-attributes="member: 194332"><p>I'm sorry, but I struggle to leave when I read such absolute drivel worthy of a swift and thorough refutation. Why? Quite frankly because I think it is an insult to call this rubbish 'Christian'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I ask you again Clirus, a question that you avoided earlier:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">To verify that there is, in fact, a significant association between two categorical variables, such as Atheism and 'disease, death and destruction', you would need to set a p value (usually 0.05 in behavioural sciences), determine a research paradigm, and then conduct a Chi-square test for independence and relatedness on the data ascertained. And even then, your results and their interpretation would be open to severe scrutiny due to the high possibility of extraneous variables accounting for apparently significant results. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">So I wonder... <u>how much empirical research have you done to conclude that "Atheistic activity does lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty", or in other words, that there is a statistically significant correlation between Atheism and disease, death, destruction and poverty???</u>*</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">* Keeping in mind that correlation too does not necessarily imply causation.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">** Keeping in mind that statical significance testing is an important component of empirical research.</p><p></p><p>Until you can prove it substantially and statistically... you're just speculating. And while you're speculating, there is no compelling reason to believe your claim to be true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That would require you to prove that <em>most</em> of the poor who claim to be Christian are actually not. A proof you have yet to provide. In fact, you have yet to provide proof for your claim that most people are poor because it's their fault.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Who? No-one on here has denied a link between poverty and personal decisions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow. That is incredible. You would rather see a woman die from a rape than survive it. I do not need to go into how terrible that is. It's obvious. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And your interpretation of the Good Samaritan parable is ill-founded, and that has been shown already, <u>on numerous occasions</u>. What you teach is incompatible with the very meaning conveyed in the parable itself. And therefore, it cannot be counted among the doctrines of Christianity, ever. So move on... perhaps you should consider finding or founding another religion where you and your opinions would feel right at home. For it is plain as day that a large part of your opinion is incongruent with Christ's teachings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archaeopteryx, post: 54476002, member: 194332"] I'm sorry, but I struggle to leave when I read such absolute drivel worthy of a swift and thorough refutation. Why? Quite frankly because I think it is an insult to call this rubbish 'Christian'. I ask you again Clirus, a question that you avoided earlier: [INDENT]To verify that there is, in fact, a significant association between two categorical variables, such as Atheism and 'disease, death and destruction', you would need to set a p value (usually 0.05 in behavioural sciences), determine a research paradigm, and then conduct a Chi-square test for independence and relatedness on the data ascertained. And even then, your results and their interpretation would be open to severe scrutiny due to the high possibility of extraneous variables accounting for apparently significant results. So I wonder... [U]how much empirical research have you done to conclude that "Atheistic activity does lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty", or in other words, that there is a statistically significant correlation between Atheism and disease, death, destruction and poverty???[/U]* * Keeping in mind that correlation too does not necessarily imply causation. ** Keeping in mind that statical significance testing is an important component of empirical research.[/INDENT] Until you can prove it substantially and statistically... you're just speculating. And while you're speculating, there is no compelling reason to believe your claim to be true. That would require you to prove that [I]most[/I] of the poor who claim to be Christian are actually not. A proof you have yet to provide. In fact, you have yet to provide proof for your claim that most people are poor because it's their fault. Who? No-one on here has denied a link between poverty and personal decisions. Wow. That is incredible. You would rather see a woman die from a rape than survive it. I do not need to go into how terrible that is. It's obvious. And your interpretation of the Good Samaritan parable is ill-founded, and that has been shown already, [U]on numerous occasions[/U]. What you teach is incompatible with the very meaning conveyed in the parable itself. And therefore, it cannot be counted among the doctrines of Christianity, ever. So move on... perhaps you should consider finding or founding another religion where you and your opinions would feel right at home. For it is plain as day that a large part of your opinion is incongruent with Christ's teachings. [/QUOTE]
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