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<blockquote data-quote="Justatruthseeker" data-source="post: 68088382" data-attributes="member: 332164"><p>No, in the Newton sense it is a force - and in every aspect of it it's description it is a force - except when you want it to be bending, expanding nothing, then suddenly it's not a force at all. Wouldn't accept an aether so they bent empty space instead. Weight is a useless concept without two forces acting together. In space by oneself - one feels no weight. Weight is a two body equation and requires a two body force solution. Which is why all one body solutions lead to singularities - errors in the math.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh yes it does - this is why there is no quantum theory of gravity - and if the Higg's pans out - then gravity is at the quantum level where only quantum electrodynamics forces have been shown to apply.</p><p></p><p>It matters quite a lot whether it is a force or magical bending nothing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it's not - charge is the basic unit, it's not a product of anything but built up energy. Every subatomic particle has a rest energy which is it's base electric charge. You do understand E=mc^2, correct? There is no if about this, no maybe, no but, but.....</p><p></p><p>If you "lift (a force proper)" an object within the electric and magnetic fields - it builds kinetic energy.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy</a></p><p></p><p>"In physics, the kinetic energy of an object is the energy that it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its stated velocity. Having gained this energy during its acceleration, the body maintains this kinetic energy unless its speed changes...."</p><p></p><p>And releases that energy upon impact or slowing down.</p><p></p><p>"...The same amount of work is done by the body in decelerating from its current speed to a state of rest."</p><p></p><p>When an object "falls" - is accelerated in the electric and magnetic fields - it gains energy from interaction with those fields. But not magically, the energy was already there - contained within those EM fields - which all particles emit - except Fairie Dust particles of course (insert dark matter, etc., etc.)</p><p></p><p>Charge is the manifestation of energy in particles of physical matter. If there is no electric charge - there is no particle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justatruthseeker, post: 68088382, member: 332164"] No, in the Newton sense it is a force - and in every aspect of it it's description it is a force - except when you want it to be bending, expanding nothing, then suddenly it's not a force at all. Wouldn't accept an aether so they bent empty space instead. Weight is a useless concept without two forces acting together. In space by oneself - one feels no weight. Weight is a two body equation and requires a two body force solution. Which is why all one body solutions lead to singularities - errors in the math. Oh yes it does - this is why there is no quantum theory of gravity - and if the Higg's pans out - then gravity is at the quantum level where only quantum electrodynamics forces have been shown to apply. It matters quite a lot whether it is a force or magical bending nothing. No it's not - charge is the basic unit, it's not a product of anything but built up energy. Every subatomic particle has a rest energy which is it's base electric charge. You do understand E=mc^2, correct? There is no if about this, no maybe, no but, but..... If you "lift (a force proper)" an object within the electric and magnetic fields - it builds kinetic energy. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy[/URL] "In physics, the kinetic energy of an object is the energy that it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its stated velocity. Having gained this energy during its acceleration, the body maintains this kinetic energy unless its speed changes...." And releases that energy upon impact or slowing down. "...The same amount of work is done by the body in decelerating from its current speed to a state of rest." When an object "falls" - is accelerated in the electric and magnetic fields - it gains energy from interaction with those fields. But not magically, the energy was already there - contained within those EM fields - which all particles emit - except Fairie Dust particles of course (insert dark matter, etc., etc.) Charge is the manifestation of energy in particles of physical matter. If there is no electric charge - there is no particle. [/QUOTE]
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