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<blockquote data-quote="Justatruthseeker" data-source="post: 67536660" data-attributes="member: 332164"><p>And we better add magnetic fields to the list. Since they exist everywhere in space.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/node77.html" target="_blank">http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/node77.html</a></p><p></p><p>"In conclusion, <em>all</em> magnetic fields encountered in nature are generated by <em>circulating currents</em>. There is no fundamental difference between the fields generated by permanent magnets and those generated by currents flowing around conventional electric circuits. In the former, case the currents which generate the fields circulate on the atomic scale, whereas, in the latter case, the currents circulate on a macroscopic scale (<em>i.e.</em>, the scale of the circuit). "</p><p></p><p><a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfie.html" target="_blank">http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfie.html</a></p><p></p><p>"<a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c1" target="_blank">Magnetic fields</a> are produced by <a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elecur.html#c1" target="_blank">electric currents</a>, which can be macroscopic currents in wires, or microscopic currents associated with electrons in atomic orbits."</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field</a></p><p></p><p>"A <strong>magnetic field</strong> is the magnetic effect of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current" target="_blank">electric currents</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet" target="_blank">magnetic materials</a>."</p><p></p><p>Although we have two models - only one has never failed a test. I'll let you decide which model cosmologists use.</p><p></p><p>The one based on imaginary things or the one that matches reality.</p><p></p><p>"<span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Magnetic pole model and the H-field</strong></span></p><p>Since it is based on the fictitious idea of a <em>magnetic charge density</em>, the Gilbert model has limitations....</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Amperian loop model and the B-field</strong></span></p><p>After Oersted discovered that electric currents produce a magnetic field and Ampere discovered that electric currents attracted and repelled each other similar to magnets, it was natural to hypothesize that all magnetic fields are due to electric current loops...</p><p></p><p>...to date no exception to this rule has been found."</p><p></p><p>So take a guess who is using fictitious arguments that have severe limitations and who is using what to date, science has found no exception to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justatruthseeker, post: 67536660, member: 332164"] And we better add magnetic fields to the list. Since they exist everywhere in space. [URL]http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/node77.html[/URL] "In conclusion, [I]all[/I] magnetic fields encountered in nature are generated by [I]circulating currents[/I]. There is no fundamental difference between the fields generated by permanent magnets and those generated by currents flowing around conventional electric circuits. In the former, case the currents which generate the fields circulate on the atomic scale, whereas, in the latter case, the currents circulate on a macroscopic scale ([I]i.e.[/I], the scale of the circuit). " [URL]http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfie.html[/URL] "[URL='http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c1']Magnetic fields[/URL] are produced by [URL='http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elecur.html#c1']electric currents[/URL], which can be macroscopic currents in wires, or microscopic currents associated with electrons in atomic orbits." [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field[/URL] "A [B]magnetic field[/B] is the magnetic effect of [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current']electric currents[/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet']magnetic materials[/URL]." Although we have two models - only one has never failed a test. I'll let you decide which model cosmologists use. The one based on imaginary things or the one that matches reality. "[SIZE=4][B]Magnetic pole model and the H-field[/B][/SIZE] Since it is based on the fictitious idea of a [I]magnetic charge density[/I], the Gilbert model has limitations.... [SIZE=4][B]Amperian loop model and the B-field[/B][/SIZE] After Oersted discovered that electric currents produce a magnetic field and Ampere discovered that electric currents attracted and repelled each other similar to magnets, it was natural to hypothesize that all magnetic fields are due to electric current loops... ...to date no exception to this rule has been found." So take a guess who is using fictitious arguments that have severe limitations and who is using what to date, science has found no exception to. [/QUOTE]
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