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<blockquote data-quote="JGG" data-source="post: 68388814" data-attributes="member: 142591"><p>Yes. Supernatural literally means "beyond natural". If a supernatural agent causes something to happen in the natural world, then yes, it is violating the laws of the natural realm with something beyond natural. That is what we mean by "supernatural". If it didn't violate the natural realm, it would be "natural".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is not something stated in natural la. Divine intervention would certainly violate natural law. Otherwise, the divine would be part of natural law.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay. But the natural law depends on "all things being equal". Once supernatural agents make things "unequal" the law is violated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As you're trying to convince me that a man has risen from the dead, that's circular.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't understand. Why would you be skeptical? Are you saying you don't believe me? I was simply be walking on water. You don't need to look for evidence, I'm telling you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They don't need to be analogous. Here, I'll let you in on a secret: I can fly too. Either you accept my claim, or you do not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't understand. You don't believe that I can walk on water, but you show absolutely no skepticism that I've seen the birth of a child? What gives?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JGG, post: 68388814, member: 142591"] Yes. Supernatural literally means "beyond natural". If a supernatural agent causes something to happen in the natural world, then yes, it is violating the laws of the natural realm with something beyond natural. That is what we mean by "supernatural". If it didn't violate the natural realm, it would be "natural". That is not something stated in natural la. Divine intervention would certainly violate natural law. Otherwise, the divine would be part of natural law. Okay. But the natural law depends on "all things being equal". Once supernatural agents make things "unequal" the law is violated. As you're trying to convince me that a man has risen from the dead, that's circular. I don't understand. Why would you be skeptical? Are you saying you don't believe me? I was simply be walking on water. You don't need to look for evidence, I'm telling you. They don't need to be analogous. Here, I'll let you in on a secret: I can fly too. Either you accept my claim, or you do not. I don't understand. You don't believe that I can walk on water, but you show absolutely no skepticism that I've seen the birth of a child? What gives? [/QUOTE]
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