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<blockquote data-quote="AlexBP" data-source="post: 59550609" data-attributes="member: 261211"><p>That fails on two hugely obvious counts. First of all, outlawing murder is not an intrusion on privacy comparable to sterilization at gunpoint. Outlawing murder is within the proper role of government because it defends the basic rights of individuals, while sterilization at gunpoint. I and others have explained this to you ad nauseum. What do you hope to accomplish by repeating rhetorical tricks that have already been debunked many times in this thread?</p><p></p><p>Secondly, there has never been a "world wide effort to fight murder". Efforts to stop murder are generally done by local police forces.</p><p></p><p>That fails for the same two reasons. First of all, voluntary small pox vaccinations are not an intrusion on privacy comparable to sterilization at gunpoint. Secondly, while governments provided some funding for that effort, the main support came from health organizations, non-profits, and companies. If you read the story of Bill Foege, the scientist who came up with the "ring vaccination" technique that made smallpox eradication possible, you'll learn that governments often got in the way of his efforts and he had to work around them.</p><p></p><p>No, my point is that "it"--i.e. sterilization at gunpoint--is guaranteed to be a major disaster. I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand.</p><p></p><p>Previously you posted that and I did not ignore it, but rather posted this:<p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Sienna">And how will we know beforehand what how many lives the "cure" will save and how many it will kill via "side-effects"? </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AlexBP, post: 59550609, member: 261211"] That fails on two hugely obvious counts. First of all, outlawing murder is not an intrusion on privacy comparable to sterilization at gunpoint. Outlawing murder is within the proper role of government because it defends the basic rights of individuals, while sterilization at gunpoint. I and others have explained this to you ad nauseum. What do you hope to accomplish by repeating rhetorical tricks that have already been debunked many times in this thread? Secondly, there has never been a "world wide effort to fight murder". Efforts to stop murder are generally done by local police forces. That fails for the same two reasons. First of all, voluntary small pox vaccinations are not an intrusion on privacy comparable to sterilization at gunpoint. Secondly, while governments provided some funding for that effort, the main support came from health organizations, non-profits, and companies. If you read the story of Bill Foege, the scientist who came up with the "ring vaccination" technique that made smallpox eradication possible, you'll learn that governments often got in the way of his efforts and he had to work around them. No, my point is that "it"--i.e. sterilization at gunpoint--is guaranteed to be a major disaster. I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand. Previously you posted that and I did not ignore it, but rather posted this:[INDENT][COLOR=Sienna]And how will we know beforehand what how many lives the "cure" will save and how many it will kill via "side-effects"? [/COLOR][/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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