Thought it might be fun to have a thread that names all the people who at one time or another have been identified as the Antichrist.
I'll start:
Henry Kissinger
Next!
I'll start:
Henry Kissinger
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Pin the tail on the Antichrist
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You have forgotten the two favorite recent ones.
George H. W. Bush
Barak Hussein Obama
And of course,
Sarah Palin.
All of this is utter nonsense. The Antichrist will not be revealed until his time. And when he comes, there will be no question about his identity.
George H. W. Bush
Barak Hussein Obama
And of course,
Sarah Palin.
All of this is utter nonsense. The Antichrist will not be revealed until his time. And when he comes, there will be no question about his identity.
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zeke37
IMO...
this is sooooo wrong...
only the elect will know who he is...the rest of the world will not...
they will think him Someone else.
they will worship him who looks like a lamb but speaks as a dragon...
JESUS reveals him for who he really is at Christ's Coming.
only when the world actually see's Christ coming, will they THEN know who the antiChrist really is.
THEN they will know that he is Satan the supernatural fallen angel and NOT Jesus.
until then, the world thinks he is their saviour....and all that is called God.
and that will include many Christians.
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I meant, of course, that his identity would be obvious to those who are paying attention to the scriptures.
I agree that the bulk of the world, including the bulk of those who call themselves Christians, will believe his lies. But not even one true believer (as opposed to those who simply call themselves Christians without really believing) will be deceived.
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Absolutely correct. Most will believe he is the messiah, the christ, while a percentage of Christians, most of the Jews, and most of the Muslims will know he is of satan.
However, since even the percentage of Christians, Muslims, and Jews who will recognize him will not be prepared for him, even MOST of these will face martyrdom at his hands.
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Agreed.
We've already been told who the anti-christs are ...
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. 13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. 14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
I'm not sure it's all that difficult to spot the antichrists ...7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. 13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. 14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Examples:
Karl Marx
Vladimir Lenin
Joseph Stalin
George Soros
All these men denied God ... promised great things ... left devastation in their wake.
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The guy did despicable things, but apparently didn't really deny God.
Worth mentioning is Nazi ==> National Socialism
Just Marxism under another name.
And, in that vein ...
Did George Bush deny God? NO
Did Barack Obama deny God? ... not really, just obviously uncomfortable with it ...
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Revelation 17: 8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The Bible makes it very clear that the antichrist is someone who has already existed. John says it 3 times in 4 verses. This is not a normal person. His spirit is currently in the abyss (also known as the bottomles pit in the Bible). This is just a plain reading of Scripture. The spirit of the Antichrist is definitely not going to come from normal means. It is going to come from the abyss.
For more on this, I wrote a blog about it last year:
The Return of the Antichrist « Spirit and Truth
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The Bible makes it very clear that the antichrist is someone who has already existed. John says it 3 times in 4 verses. This is not a normal person. His spirit is currently in the abyss (also known as the bottomles pit in the Bible). This is just a plain reading of Scripture. The spirit of the Antichrist is definitely not going to come from normal means. It is going to come from the abyss.
For more on this, I wrote a blog about it last year:
The Return of the Antichrist « Spirit and Truth
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Regardless, everyone back in the 40's believed Hitler was the antichrist.
Some people still think he's tied into revelation somehow because he committed suicide by gunshot to the head.
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Except for the fact that along with Jews and Romani the Nazis also had Communists killed. Marxism and Nazism are very different political ideologies. The National Socialism of Germany regarded Communism to be dangerous precisely because it advocated the dissolution of private property. Hitler's actual words: "Our adopted term Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#cite_note-111 (Reference)
I don't see how Obama is uncomfortable with God. Unless one has the opinion that in order to be a politician and a Christian you have to continually offer sound byte after sound byte. Frankly that annoys the heck out of me. Politicians that talk about their faith all the time don't impress me.
As far as Dubya is concerned, this video, as far as I'm concerned, says it all:
YouTube - George W Bush Battles Jesus Christ
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I'm no fan of Evangelicalism or President Bush for that matter, but that video is dubious from a Biblical and particularly Lutheran perspective. It is a leader's job to defend his country and lead it in war, defending its interests, ensuring its prosperity, etc. After all, the authorities are the servants of God, working out His good purposes (even in evil deeds!).
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Satan is not in the abyss. This is Biblical fact. At that point he could not possibly be the Antichrist. The antichrist is dead, with a spirit currently in the abyss. Again, this is just clear reading of scripture.
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