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<blockquote data-quote="food4thought" data-source="post: 68552324" data-attributes="member: 3467"><p>While I generally agree with gsldisciple, I think we would be doing you a disservice if we did not acknowledge that the Bible calls us to submit ourselves to God (James 4:7). Look around at the world we live in... despite God's restraint upon us, look at the wreckage following our own will has led to ( [MEDIA=youtube]zWT-MrEi-Yw[/MEDIA] ) ! It is right and good for us to surrender our will in order to do God's, because He is good, He knows every outcome of every possible action, and He has the ultimate best for every one of us individually and corporately as His goal.</p><p></p><p>Love sometimes entails surrendering our desires in order to help accomplish the best for someone else. The highest form of relationship is agape love, which is when someone gives of themselves and their treasure for the ultimate good of the one loved. This requires that the one who loves must submit his/her desires for their own betterment in order to accomplish the ultimate good for the one loved.</p><p></p><p>Pride is the opposite of all this. Pride says that I am number one. Pride will step all over someone else if it gets us what we want. Prideful actions are often born out of fear that others will do the same to us. Agape love is the cure for our pride and our fear. God will not unnecessarily cause us hurt in order to get what He wants, because in His love for us what He wants is our own good, and the good of others. Submitting to Him is in our own best interest. Submitting ourselves to others for their good will be rewarded by God, even if it isn't by the ones we love in this way.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps;</p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="food4thought, post: 68552324, member: 3467"] While I generally agree with gsldisciple, I think we would be doing you a disservice if we did not acknowledge that the Bible calls us to submit ourselves to God (James 4:7). Look around at the world we live in... despite God's restraint upon us, look at the wreckage following our own will has led to ( [MEDIA=youtube]zWT-MrEi-Yw[/MEDIA] ) ! It is right and good for us to surrender our will in order to do God's, because He is good, He knows every outcome of every possible action, and He has the ultimate best for every one of us individually and corporately as His goal. Love sometimes entails surrendering our desires in order to help accomplish the best for someone else. The highest form of relationship is agape love, which is when someone gives of themselves and their treasure for the ultimate good of the one loved. This requires that the one who loves must submit his/her desires for their own betterment in order to accomplish the ultimate good for the one loved. Pride is the opposite of all this. Pride says that I am number one. Pride will step all over someone else if it gets us what we want. Prideful actions are often born out of fear that others will do the same to us. Agape love is the cure for our pride and our fear. God will not unnecessarily cause us hurt in order to get what He wants, because in His love for us what He wants is our own good, and the good of others. Submitting to Him is in our own best interest. Submitting ourselves to others for their good will be rewarded by God, even if it isn't by the ones we love in this way. Hope this helps; Mike [/QUOTE]
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