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On wishing there were no Hell (moved)
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<blockquote data-quote="oi_antz" data-source="post: 68422825" data-attributes="member: 261524"><p>Please insist on scriptural support for these doctrines. Keep in mind that Christians learn what they are taught before they learn from God, and by that time they are accustomed to read scriptures in context supporting the doctrines they are taught, and then they harden their hearts to His correction.</p><p></p><p>Scriptures speak about a second death. Scriptures speak about burning chaff and weeds with unquenchable fire. I have never seen anything survive fire before. Yes, as I have read scriptures, independent of and contrary to the doctrines I was taught, all indicate ultimate annihilation for the unregenerate, also described as the second death, the lake of fire. There is Revelation 14:11 which speaks of a very specific class of people. Because it stands so starkly against the rest of scripture, it serves a solemn warning to everyone about entering the regime described.</p><p></p><p>Or tortured for a moment. Not a single scripture describes torture in hell.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, well, I suppose it isn't beyond His ability, is it? After all, what can we do but trust Him? So far, He appears to be truly good, based on a fair view of the evidence.</p><p></p><p>I reckon not.</p><p></p><p>No. Be honest with Him. He hates liars and deceivers. He would rather hear your grievances so He can comfort you.</p><p></p><p>I think it is good to acknowledge that your capacity to understand and therefore appreciate His goodness is still growing. In my experience, after several years of it, this appreciation of His goodness keeps growing if we tend to it.</p><p></p><p>Immensely. It is tragic, so heart breaking, and for me alone who knows only a handful of people, yet God knows and loves every single one intimately. I reckon nobody can ever know grief like He does.</p><p></p><p>I do not believe He will necessarily do that, yes though that idea does make me uneasy.</p><p></p><p>I suggest probably it is love, and not sin at all.</p><p></p><p>Trust Him, and learn the truth. John 8:12, John 8:31-32.</p><p></p><p>You are on track <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite234" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbs Up :thumbsup:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oi_antz, post: 68422825, member: 261524"] Please insist on scriptural support for these doctrines. Keep in mind that Christians learn what they are taught before they learn from God, and by that time they are accustomed to read scriptures in context supporting the doctrines they are taught, and then they harden their hearts to His correction. Scriptures speak about a second death. Scriptures speak about burning chaff and weeds with unquenchable fire. I have never seen anything survive fire before. Yes, as I have read scriptures, independent of and contrary to the doctrines I was taught, all indicate ultimate annihilation for the unregenerate, also described as the second death, the lake of fire. There is Revelation 14:11 which speaks of a very specific class of people. Because it stands so starkly against the rest of scripture, it serves a solemn warning to everyone about entering the regime described. Or tortured for a moment. Not a single scripture describes torture in hell. Yeah, well, I suppose it isn't beyond His ability, is it? After all, what can we do but trust Him? So far, He appears to be truly good, based on a fair view of the evidence. I reckon not. No. Be honest with Him. He hates liars and deceivers. He would rather hear your grievances so He can comfort you. I think it is good to acknowledge that your capacity to understand and therefore appreciate His goodness is still growing. In my experience, after several years of it, this appreciation of His goodness keeps growing if we tend to it. Immensely. It is tragic, so heart breaking, and for me alone who knows only a handful of people, yet God knows and loves every single one intimately. I reckon nobody can ever know grief like He does. I do not believe He will necessarily do that, yes though that idea does make me uneasy. I suggest probably it is love, and not sin at all. Trust Him, and learn the truth. John 8:12, John 8:31-32. You are on track :thumbsup: [/QUOTE]
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