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Now that I have witnessed "moral progress" up close and in person: Are we supposed to be impressed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Desk trauma" data-source="post: 69673533" data-attributes="member: 297432"><p>Looking at the data.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First you said 50 now it's a 100. </p><p></p><p>Moving right along with the goal posts. The 20th century did open with one of the greatest explosions of violence however from then on the trend has been <a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904106704576583203589408180" target="_blank">going down steadily</a>:</p><p><img src="http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2011/09/RVAE378_VIOLEN_G_20110923205707.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>(I cannot recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0143122010/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1464268204&sr=1-1&keywords=better+angels+of+our+nature" target="_blank">The Better Angels of Our Nature enough</a>)</p><p></p><p>In the US it's also wroth nothing that we have seen a decades long<a href="http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm" target="_blank"> decline in violent crime</a>. Interestingly this decline correlates with the increase in "violent" video games and internet porn. I don't have a causal link but it knocks the legs out from under the idea that such things produce a society of violent rapists. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right, no one need starve. The "problem solvers" you have such distain for are doing a great deal towards making that happen. The rate of undernourishment has been<a href="http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/288229/icode/" target="_blank"> almost cut in half</a> in the past 25 years. How large a number does it need to be more than a blip?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My age and how much of the earth I have walked does not change the numbers. Poverty is on the decline globally. A billion people have risen from it in the past 25 years and the rate has been <a href="http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21578665-nearly-1-billion-people-have-been-taken-out-extreme-poverty-20-years-world-should-aim" target="_blank">cut by more than half</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am less then 40 but I know exactly what you're saying. You're saying the fact starved narrative of things are getting worse. They are not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desk trauma, post: 69673533, member: 297432"] Looking at the data. First you said 50 now it's a 100. Moving right along with the goal posts. The 20th century did open with one of the greatest explosions of violence however from then on the trend has been [URL='http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904106704576583203589408180']going down steadily[/URL]: [IMG]http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2011/09/RVAE378_VIOLEN_G_20110923205707.jpg[/IMG] (I cannot recommend [URL='http://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0143122010/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1464268204&sr=1-1&keywords=better+angels+of+our+nature']The Better Angels of Our Nature enough[/URL]) In the US it's also wroth nothing that we have seen a decades long[URL='http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm'] decline in violent crime[/URL]. Interestingly this decline correlates with the increase in "violent" video games and internet porn. I don't have a causal link but it knocks the legs out from under the idea that such things produce a society of violent rapists. You're right, no one need starve. The "problem solvers" you have such distain for are doing a great deal towards making that happen. The rate of undernourishment has been[URL='http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/288229/icode/'] almost cut in half[/URL] in the past 25 years. How large a number does it need to be more than a blip? My age and how much of the earth I have walked does not change the numbers. Poverty is on the decline globally. A billion people have risen from it in the past 25 years and the rate has been [URL='http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21578665-nearly-1-billion-people-have-been-taken-out-extreme-poverty-20-years-world-should-aim']cut by more than half[/URL]. I am less then 40 but I know exactly what you're saying. You're saying the fact starved narrative of things are getting worse. They are not. [/QUOTE]
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