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Intelligent Design/Fine Tuning Question
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<blockquote data-quote="aiki" data-source="post: 60748421" data-attributes="member: 178791"><p>Why can't a circle have right angles, or a fish have feathers? <em>By definition</em>, a circle has no right angles and fish have no feathers. Likewise, <em>by definition</em> God has no designer. If He did have a designer, then His designer would necessarily be superior to Him and thus His God. All you do by positing a designer of God is set the First Cause back a step. In any case, the concept of God, at least in the Christian worldview, necessarily entails that God is causeless. God cannot be God if He is not causeless just like a circle cannot be a circle if it has a right angle. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Because God is a Cause, the First Cause, in fact, while the universe is the <em>effect</em> of a cause. Mainstream secular science has established by way of the Big Bang Theory that the universe began to exist a finite time ago, which points very clearly to the universe being an effect, not a cause. <em>"Ex nihilo, nihilo fit."</em> Also, there are serious logical problems with holding that the universe is infinite. For example, it is impossible for the universe to have arrived at the present moment because, if the universe has an infinite existence, there is an infinite span of time existing before this moment which is, because it is<em> infinite</em>, impossible to cross. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>It is very likely that there are aspects of the universe which are beyond our comprehension - at least at the moment. But the universe is not utterly beyond our comprehension. In fact, there are many things about it that we do know. And some of those things indicate that the universe is finite and caused. </p><p></p><p>Selah.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aiki, post: 60748421, member: 178791"] Why can't a circle have right angles, or a fish have feathers? [I]By definition[/I], a circle has no right angles and fish have no feathers. Likewise, [I]by definition[/I] God has no designer. If He did have a designer, then His designer would necessarily be superior to Him and thus His God. All you do by positing a designer of God is set the First Cause back a step. In any case, the concept of God, at least in the Christian worldview, necessarily entails that God is causeless. God cannot be God if He is not causeless just like a circle cannot be a circle if it has a right angle. Because God is a Cause, the First Cause, in fact, while the universe is the [I]effect[/I] of a cause. Mainstream secular science has established by way of the Big Bang Theory that the universe began to exist a finite time ago, which points very clearly to the universe being an effect, not a cause. [I]"Ex nihilo, nihilo fit."[/I] Also, there are serious logical problems with holding that the universe is infinite. For example, it is impossible for the universe to have arrived at the present moment because, if the universe has an infinite existence, there is an infinite span of time existing before this moment which is, because it is[I] infinite[/I], impossible to cross. It is very likely that there are aspects of the universe which are beyond our comprehension - at least at the moment. But the universe is not utterly beyond our comprehension. In fact, there are many things about it that we do know. And some of those things indicate that the universe is finite and caused. Selah. [/QUOTE]
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