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<blockquote data-quote="peadar1987" data-source="post: 54435384" data-attributes="member: 241183"><p>When 1% of the people control 90% of the wealth, socialism would involve taking from the few to give to the most. You cannot in any way argue against this, so please stop trying. Debate the morality, debate the practicality, but you can't argue against a concrete fact.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So you're saying god is evil and malicious? Why take out peoples sins on innocents? If you cut me off on the motorway, would it be okay for me to come round to your house and punch your 6 year old son in the face?</p><p></p><p></p><p>So why can't we have both? Free education and addressing of social problems? And something I really approve of; time in the curriculum dedicated to parenting classes?</p><p></p><p></p><p>And this is going to help the kids how, exactly? All you're going to end up with then is a whole load of angry kids, a load of angrier widows, and tens of millions of people willing to overthrow the government implementing this scheme. And I find it interesting that you consider state intervention in education and health care by way of funding to be extremely evil, but state intervention by way of executing people you, clirus, consider to be bad parents, as something not just acceptable, but desirable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think anyone who is not a monster would make a distincton between non combatants and combatants. Do you accept and agree with flying a plane into a crowded skyscraper, because it isn't making that distinction?</p><p></p><p>There's a difference between making sure there are no civilians in an area, and nuking an entire country into a puddle of radioactive glass (which I'm fairly sure I've actually seen you advocate before). Isn't there something in the bible about not committing murder? I'm fairly sure there is!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>To be honest, people who kill civilians aid the enemy more, by giving them angry people who hate the Americans for killing their innocent friends and family, and fuel for propaganda, even when you leave out the morality of killing innocent people.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Are the wars in the middle east not supposed to be fighting against tyrrany? How is stamping down on legitimate free speech, something which, may I remind you, is enshrined in your constitution, any better than what people are doing in Saudi Arabia?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="peadar1987, post: 54435384, member: 241183"] When 1% of the people control 90% of the wealth, socialism would involve taking from the few to give to the most. You cannot in any way argue against this, so please stop trying. Debate the morality, debate the practicality, but you can't argue against a concrete fact. So you're saying god is evil and malicious? Why take out peoples sins on innocents? If you cut me off on the motorway, would it be okay for me to come round to your house and punch your 6 year old son in the face? So why can't we have both? Free education and addressing of social problems? And something I really approve of; time in the curriculum dedicated to parenting classes? And this is going to help the kids how, exactly? All you're going to end up with then is a whole load of angry kids, a load of angrier widows, and tens of millions of people willing to overthrow the government implementing this scheme. And I find it interesting that you consider state intervention in education and health care by way of funding to be extremely evil, but state intervention by way of executing people you, clirus, consider to be bad parents, as something not just acceptable, but desirable. I think anyone who is not a monster would make a distincton between non combatants and combatants. Do you accept and agree with flying a plane into a crowded skyscraper, because it isn't making that distinction? There's a difference between making sure there are no civilians in an area, and nuking an entire country into a puddle of radioactive glass (which I'm fairly sure I've actually seen you advocate before). Isn't there something in the bible about not committing murder? I'm fairly sure there is!! To be honest, people who kill civilians aid the enemy more, by giving them angry people who hate the Americans for killing their innocent friends and family, and fuel for propaganda, even when you leave out the morality of killing innocent people. Are the wars in the middle east not supposed to be fighting against tyrrany? How is stamping down on legitimate free speech, something which, may I remind you, is enshrined in your constitution, any better than what people are doing in Saudi Arabia? [/QUOTE]
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