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<blockquote data-quote="rudenski" data-source="post: 1974764" data-attributes="member: 23522"><p>Anyone who truly wishes to see what transpires at the end of this age has only to read the second half of the Wisdom of Solomon. Such a time brings a fire or the release of energy on all things in the form of unusual rains and hailstorms, and relentless showers. There is also an accompanying shift in molecular forces, which can be gathered from the fact that water, which normally quenches every thing, causes fire to have an even greater effect. (Wis 16:17) It is evident that the Oxygen and Hydrogen atoms become disassociated to some degree. It blazed up in the midst of the water, with more than fiery power, (Wis 16:19) and snow and ice endured fire without melting. (Wis 16:22) What crops the fire could not destroy melted away when it was simply warmed by a fleeting sunbeam.(Wis 16:27) What there is also to consider is that this incredible change in molecular forces, also carries all the way through the entire electromagnetic spectrum! For, as the scriptures say, they were deprived of light and imprisoned in darkness.(Wis 18;4) Over them was spread a heavy night (Wis 17:21) They were all bound with one chain of darkness. (Wis 17:17) And the sound of it ranged from that of a whistling wind, to a melodious sound of birds in spreading branches, to a regular noise of rushing water, to an avalanche of rocks being thrown down, to the sounds like those of a stamped, and even the most savage of wild roaring beasts. (Wis 17:18-20) It paralyzed them with terror and then the whole world became bathed in a bright light, and it was all occupied in an unhindered work. While those who had plotted to kill all the babies of the holy ones, through one child had been exposed and saved, (Moses), and to rebuke them God took from them a multitude of their children, and destroyed them all together in a mighty flood.(Wis 18:5) For in one instant their most valued children were destroyed. (Wis 18:12), The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. </p><p></p><p></p><p>11 The master and the servant were punished after one manner; and like as the king, so suffered the common person. 12 So they all together had innumerable dead with one kind of death; neither were the living sufficient to bury them: for in one moment the noblest offspring of them was destroyed. 13 For whereas they would not believe any thing by reason of the enchantments; upon the destruction of the firstborn, they acknowledged this people to be the sons of God. 14 For while all things were in quiet silence, and that night was in the midst of her swift course,15 Thine Almighty word leaped down from heaven out of thy royal throne, as a fierce man of war into the midst of a land of destruction,16 And brought thine unfeigned commandment as a sharp sword, and standing up filled all things with death; and it touched the heaven, but it stood upon the earth. 17 Then suddenly visions of horrible dreams troubled them sore, (in dreadful dreams startled them,) and terrors came upon them unlooked for. 18 And one thrown here, half dead, and another there, half dead, showed the cause of his death (showed why they were dying...) 19 For the dreams that troubled them did foreshow this, (giving warning and the promise of the Passover,) lest they should perish, and not know why they were afflicted.</p><p>20 Yea, the tasting of death touched the righteous also, and there was a destruction of the multitude in the wilderness: but the wrath endured not long. 21 For then the blameless man made haste, and stood forth to defend them; and bringing the shield of his proper ministry, even prayer, and the propitiation of incense, set himself against the wrath, and so brought the calamity to an end, declaring that he was thy servant. 22 So he overcame the destroyer, not with strength of body, nor force of arms, but with a word subdued he him that punished, alleging the oaths and covenants made with the fathers. (He appealed to the oaths and agreements given to the forefathers.) 23 For when the dead were now fallen down by heaps one upon another, standing between, he stayed the wrath, and parted the way to the living. 24 For in the long garment was the whole world, and in the four rows of the stones was the glory of the fathers graven, and thy Majesty upon the daidem of his head. 25 Unto these the destroyer gave place, and was afraid of them: for it was enough that they only tasted of the wrath. The Wisdom of Solomon, 18:11-25, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. </p><p></p><p>6 For the whole creature in his proper kind was fashioned again anew, serving the peculiar commandments that were given unto them, that thy children might be kept without hurt (Wis 19:6) 17 Therefore even with blindness were these stricken, as those were at the doors of the righteous man: when, being compassed about with horrible great darkness, every one sought the passage of his own doors. (They were stricken with loss of sight, too, like those others, at the upright mans door. When, surrounded with yawning darkness, each one sought the way through is own doors. Goodspeed Ed.)</p><p>18 For the elements were changed in themselves by a kind of harmony, like as in a psaltery notes change the name of the tune, and yet are always sounds; which may well be perceived by the sight of the things that have been done. 19 For earthly things were turned into watery, and the things, that before swam in the water, now went upon the ground. 20 The fire had power in the water, forgetting his own virtue: and the water forgot his own quenching nature. 21 On the other side, the flames wasted not the flesh of the corruptible living things, though they walked therein; neither melted they the icy kind of heavenly meat that was of nature apt to melt. 22 For in all things, O Lord, thou didst magnify thy people, and glorify them, neither didst thou lightly regard them: but didst assist them in every time and place. Wis 18:6, and 17-22, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.</p><p></p><p>18 For the elements changed in order with one another, just as on a harp the notes vary the character of the time, yet keep the pitch, as one may accurately infer from the observation of what happened; 19 For land animals were turned into water creatures, and swimming things changed to the land; 20 Fire retained its power in water, and water forgot its quenching property. Contrariwise, flames did not wither the flesh of perishable animals that walked about among them, nor was the easily melted is-like kind of immortal food melted. For in everything, you Lord, magnified and glorified your people, and you did no neglect them, but stood by them at every time and place. Wis 18:18-22, Goodspeed ed.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps a few passages from a few other ancient scriptures would function as a fitting close.</p><p>1You should also know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. 2 For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. 3 They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control; they will be cruel and have no interest in what is good. 4 They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. 5 They will act as if they are religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. You must stay away from people like that. 6 They are the kind who work their way into peoples homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by many desires. 7 Such women are forever following new teachings, but they never understand the truth. 8 And these teachers fight the truth just as Jannes and Jambres fought against Moses. Their minds are depraved, and their faith is counterfeit. 9 But they wont get away with this for long. Someday everyone will recognize what fools they are, just as happened with Jannes and Jambres. II Timothy 3:1-9, Living Bible</p><p> they erred in the knowledge of God; but whereas they lived in the great war of ignorance, those so great plagues called they peace. 23 For whilst they slew their children in sacrifices, or used secret ceremonies, or made revellings of strange rites; 24 They kept neither lives nor marriages any longer undefiled: but either one slew another traiterously, or grieved him by adultery. 25 So that there reigned in all men without exception blood, manslaughter, theft, and dissimulation, corruption, unfaithfulness, tumults, perjury, 26 Disquieting of good men, forgetfulness of good turns, defiling of souls, changing of kind, disorder in marriages, adultery, and shameless uncleanness. 27 For the worshipping of idols not to be named is the beginning, the cause, and the end, of all evil. 28 For either they are mad when they be merry, or prophesy lies, or live unjustly, or else lightly forswear themselves. 29 For insomuch as their trust is in idols, which have no life; though they swear falsely, yet they look not to be hurt. 30 Howbeit for both causes shall they be justly punished: both because they thought not well of God, giving heed unto idols, and also unjustly swore in deceit, despising holiness. 31 For it is not the power of them by whom they swear: but it is the just vengeance of sinners, that punisheth always the offence of the ungodly. The Wisdom of Solomon, 14:22-31, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. </p><p></p><p>The earth quaketh, and the foundations thereof; the sea ariseth up with waves from the deep, and the waves of it are troubled, and the fishes thereof also, before the Lord, and before the glory of his power: 13 For strong is his right hand that bendeth the bow, his arrows that he shooteth are sharp, and shall not miss, when they begin to be shot into the ends of the world. 14 Behold, the plagues are sent, and (once sent they) shall not return again, until they come upon the earth. 15 The fire is kindled, and shall not be put out, till it consume the foundation of the earth. 16 Like as an arrow which is shot of a mighty archer returneth not backward: even so the plagues that shall be sent upon earth shall not return again. II Esdras 16:12-16, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. </p><p></p><p>Behold, speak thou in the ears of my people the words of prophecy, which I will put in thy mouth, saith the Lord: 2 And cause them to be written in paper: for they are faithful and true. 3 Fear not the imaginations against thee, let not the incredulity of them trouble thee, that speak against thee. 4 For all the unfaithful shall die in their unfaithfulness.</p><p>5 Behold, saith the Lord, I will bring plagues upon the world; the sword, famine, death, and destruction. 6 For wickedness hath exceedingly polluted the whole earth, and their hurtful works are fulfilled. 7 Therefore saith the Lord, 8 I will hold my tongue no more as touching their wickedness, which they profanely commit, neither will I suffer them in those things, in which they wickedly exercise themselves: behold, the innocent and righteous blood crieth unto me, and the souls of the just complain continually. 9 And therefore, saith the Lord, I will surely avenge them, and receive unto me all the innocent blood from among them. 10 Behold, my people is led as a flock to the slaughter: I will not suffer them now to dwell in the land of Egypt: 11 But I will bring them with a mighty hand and a stretched out arm, and smite Egypt with plagues, as before, and will destroy all the land thereof.</p><p>12 Egypt shall mourn, and the foundation of it shall be smitten with the plague and punishment that God shall bring upon it. 13 They that till the ground shall mourn: for their seeds shall fail through the blasting and hail, and with a fearful constellation. 14 Woe to the world and them that dwell therein! 15 For the sword and their destruction draweth nigh, and one people shall stand up and fight against another, and swords in their hands. 16 For there shall be sedition among men, and invading one another; they shall not regard their kings nor princes, and the course of their actions shall stand in their power. 17 A man shall desire to go into a city, and shall not be able. 18 For because of their pride the cities shall be troubled, the houses shall be destroyed, and men shall be afraid. 19 A man shall have no pity upon his neighbour, but shall destroy their houses with the sword, and spoil their goods, because of the lack of bread, and for great tribulation.</p><p>20 Behold, saith God, I will call together all the kings of the earth to reverence me, which are from the rising of the sun, from the south, from the east, and Libanus; to turn themselves one against another, and repay the things that they have done to them. 21 Like as they do yet this day unto my chosen, so will I do also, and recompense in their bosom. Thus saith the Lord God; 22 My right hand shall not spare the sinners, and my sword shall not cease over them that shed innocent blood upon the earth. 23 The fire is gone forth from his wrath, and hath consumed the foundat-ions of the earth, and the sinners, like the straw that is kindled. 24 Woe to them that sin, and keep not my commandments! saith the Lord. 25 I will not spare them: go your way, ye children, from the power, defile not my sanctuary. 26 For the Lord knoweth all them that sin against him, and therefore delivereth he them unto death and destruction. 27 For now are the plagues come upon the whole earth and ye shall remain in them: for God shall not deliver you, because ye have sinned against him. II Esdras 15:1-27, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rudenski, post: 1974764, member: 23522"] Anyone who truly wishes to see what transpires at the end of this age has only to read the second half of the Wisdom of Solomon. Such a time brings a fire or the release of energy on all things in the form of unusual rains and hailstorms, and relentless showers. There is also an accompanying shift in molecular forces, which can be gathered from the fact that water, which normally quenches every thing, causes fire to have an even greater effect. (Wis 16:17) It is evident that the Oxygen and Hydrogen atoms become disassociated to some degree. It blazed up in the midst of the water, with more than fiery power, (Wis 16:19) and snow and ice endured fire without melting. (Wis 16:22) What crops the fire could not destroy melted away when it was simply warmed by a fleeting sunbeam.(Wis 16:27) What there is also to consider is that this incredible change in molecular forces, also carries all the way through the entire electromagnetic spectrum! For, as the scriptures say, they were deprived of light and imprisoned in darkness.(Wis 18;4) Over them was spread a heavy night (Wis 17:21) They were all bound with one chain of darkness. (Wis 17:17) And the sound of it ranged from that of a whistling wind, to a melodious sound of birds in spreading branches, to a regular noise of rushing water, to an avalanche of rocks being thrown down, to the sounds like those of a stamped, and even the most savage of wild roaring beasts. (Wis 17:18-20) It paralyzed them with terror and then the whole world became bathed in a bright light, and it was all occupied in an unhindered work. While those who had plotted to kill all the babies of the holy ones, through one child had been exposed and saved, (Moses), and to rebuke them God took from them a multitude of their children, and destroyed them all together in a mighty flood.(Wis 18:5) For in one instant their most valued children were destroyed. (Wis 18:12), The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. 11 The master and the servant were punished after one manner; and like as the king, so suffered the common person. 12 So they all together had innumerable dead with one kind of death; neither were the living sufficient to bury them: for in one moment the noblest offspring of them was destroyed. 13 For whereas they would not believe any thing by reason of the enchantments; upon the destruction of the firstborn, they acknowledged this people to be the sons of God. 14 For while all things were in quiet silence, and that night was in the midst of her swift course,15 Thine Almighty word leaped down from heaven out of thy royal throne, as a fierce man of war into the midst of a land of destruction,16 And brought thine unfeigned commandment as a sharp sword, and standing up filled all things with death; and it touched the heaven, but it stood upon the earth. 17 Then suddenly visions of horrible dreams troubled them sore, (in dreadful dreams startled them,) and terrors came upon them unlooked for. 18 And one thrown here, half dead, and another there, half dead, showed the cause of his death (showed why they were dying...) 19 For the dreams that troubled them did foreshow this, (giving warning and the promise of the Passover,) lest they should perish, and not know why they were afflicted. 20 Yea, the tasting of death touched the righteous also, and there was a destruction of the multitude in the wilderness: but the wrath endured not long. 21 For then the blameless man made haste, and stood forth to defend them; and bringing the shield of his proper ministry, even prayer, and the propitiation of incense, set himself against the wrath, and so brought the calamity to an end, declaring that he was thy servant. 22 So he overcame the destroyer, not with strength of body, nor force of arms, but with a word subdued he him that punished, alleging the oaths and covenants made with the fathers. (He appealed to the oaths and agreements given to the forefathers.) 23 For when the dead were now fallen down by heaps one upon another, standing between, he stayed the wrath, and parted the way to the living. 24 For in the long garment was the whole world, and in the four rows of the stones was the glory of the fathers graven, and thy Majesty upon the daidem of his head. 25 Unto these the destroyer gave place, and was afraid of them: for it was enough that they only tasted of the wrath. The Wisdom of Solomon, 18:11-25, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. 6 For the whole creature in his proper kind was fashioned again anew, serving the peculiar commandments that were given unto them, that thy children might be kept without hurt (Wis 19:6) 17 Therefore even with blindness were these stricken, as those were at the doors of the righteous man: when, being compassed about with horrible great darkness, every one sought the passage of his own doors. (They were stricken with loss of sight, too, like those others, at the upright mans door. When, surrounded with yawning darkness, each one sought the way through is own doors. Goodspeed Ed.) 18 For the elements were changed in themselves by a kind of harmony, like as in a psaltery notes change the name of the tune, and yet are always sounds; which may well be perceived by the sight of the things that have been done. 19 For earthly things were turned into watery, and the things, that before swam in the water, now went upon the ground. 20 The fire had power in the water, forgetting his own virtue: and the water forgot his own quenching nature. 21 On the other side, the flames wasted not the flesh of the corruptible living things, though they walked therein; neither melted they the icy kind of heavenly meat that was of nature apt to melt. 22 For in all things, O Lord, thou didst magnify thy people, and glorify them, neither didst thou lightly regard them: but didst assist them in every time and place. Wis 18:6, and 17-22, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. 18 For the elements changed in order with one another, just as on a harp the notes vary the character of the time, yet keep the pitch, as one may accurately infer from the observation of what happened; 19 For land animals were turned into water creatures, and swimming things changed to the land; 20 Fire retained its power in water, and water forgot its quenching property. Contrariwise, flames did not wither the flesh of perishable animals that walked about among them, nor was the easily melted is-like kind of immortal food melted. For in everything, you Lord, magnified and glorified your people, and you did no neglect them, but stood by them at every time and place. Wis 18:18-22, Goodspeed ed. Perhaps a few passages from a few other ancient scriptures would function as a fitting close. 1You should also know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. 2 For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. 3 They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control; they will be cruel and have no interest in what is good. 4 They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. 5 They will act as if they are religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. You must stay away from people like that. 6 They are the kind who work their way into peoples homes and win the confidence of vulnerable women who are burdened with the guilt of sin and controlled by many desires. 7 Such women are forever following new teachings, but they never understand the truth. 8 And these teachers fight the truth just as Jannes and Jambres fought against Moses. Their minds are depraved, and their faith is counterfeit. 9 But they wont get away with this for long. Someday everyone will recognize what fools they are, just as happened with Jannes and Jambres. II Timothy 3:1-9, Living Bible they erred in the knowledge of God; but whereas they lived in the great war of ignorance, those so great plagues called they peace. 23 For whilst they slew their children in sacrifices, or used secret ceremonies, or made revellings of strange rites; 24 They kept neither lives nor marriages any longer undefiled: but either one slew another traiterously, or grieved him by adultery. 25 So that there reigned in all men without exception blood, manslaughter, theft, and dissimulation, corruption, unfaithfulness, tumults, perjury, 26 Disquieting of good men, forgetfulness of good turns, defiling of souls, changing of kind, disorder in marriages, adultery, and shameless uncleanness. 27 For the worshipping of idols not to be named is the beginning, the cause, and the end, of all evil. 28 For either they are mad when they be merry, or prophesy lies, or live unjustly, or else lightly forswear themselves. 29 For insomuch as their trust is in idols, which have no life; though they swear falsely, yet they look not to be hurt. 30 Howbeit for both causes shall they be justly punished: both because they thought not well of God, giving heed unto idols, and also unjustly swore in deceit, despising holiness. 31 For it is not the power of them by whom they swear: but it is the just vengeance of sinners, that punisheth always the offence of the ungodly. The Wisdom of Solomon, 14:22-31, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. The earth quaketh, and the foundations thereof; the sea ariseth up with waves from the deep, and the waves of it are troubled, and the fishes thereof also, before the Lord, and before the glory of his power: 13 For strong is his right hand that bendeth the bow, his arrows that he shooteth are sharp, and shall not miss, when they begin to be shot into the ends of the world. 14 Behold, the plagues are sent, and (once sent they) shall not return again, until they come upon the earth. 15 The fire is kindled, and shall not be put out, till it consume the foundation of the earth. 16 Like as an arrow which is shot of a mighty archer returneth not backward: even so the plagues that shall be sent upon earth shall not return again. II Esdras 16:12-16, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. Behold, speak thou in the ears of my people the words of prophecy, which I will put in thy mouth, saith the Lord: 2 And cause them to be written in paper: for they are faithful and true. 3 Fear not the imaginations against thee, let not the incredulity of them trouble thee, that speak against thee. 4 For all the unfaithful shall die in their unfaithfulness. 5 Behold, saith the Lord, I will bring plagues upon the world; the sword, famine, death, and destruction. 6 For wickedness hath exceedingly polluted the whole earth, and their hurtful works are fulfilled. 7 Therefore saith the Lord, 8 I will hold my tongue no more as touching their wickedness, which they profanely commit, neither will I suffer them in those things, in which they wickedly exercise themselves: behold, the innocent and righteous blood crieth unto me, and the souls of the just complain continually. 9 And therefore, saith the Lord, I will surely avenge them, and receive unto me all the innocent blood from among them. 10 Behold, my people is led as a flock to the slaughter: I will not suffer them now to dwell in the land of Egypt: 11 But I will bring them with a mighty hand and a stretched out arm, and smite Egypt with plagues, as before, and will destroy all the land thereof. 12 Egypt shall mourn, and the foundation of it shall be smitten with the plague and punishment that God shall bring upon it. 13 They that till the ground shall mourn: for their seeds shall fail through the blasting and hail, and with a fearful constellation. 14 Woe to the world and them that dwell therein! 15 For the sword and their destruction draweth nigh, and one people shall stand up and fight against another, and swords in their hands. 16 For there shall be sedition among men, and invading one another; they shall not regard their kings nor princes, and the course of their actions shall stand in their power. 17 A man shall desire to go into a city, and shall not be able. 18 For because of their pride the cities shall be troubled, the houses shall be destroyed, and men shall be afraid. 19 A man shall have no pity upon his neighbour, but shall destroy their houses with the sword, and spoil their goods, because of the lack of bread, and for great tribulation. 20 Behold, saith God, I will call together all the kings of the earth to reverence me, which are from the rising of the sun, from the south, from the east, and Libanus; to turn themselves one against another, and repay the things that they have done to them. 21 Like as they do yet this day unto my chosen, so will I do also, and recompense in their bosom. Thus saith the Lord God; 22 My right hand shall not spare the sinners, and my sword shall not cease over them that shed innocent blood upon the earth. 23 The fire is gone forth from his wrath, and hath consumed the foundat-ions of the earth, and the sinners, like the straw that is kindled. 24 Woe to them that sin, and keep not my commandments! saith the Lord. 25 I will not spare them: go your way, ye children, from the power, defile not my sanctuary. 26 For the Lord knoweth all them that sin against him, and therefore delivereth he them unto death and destruction. 27 For now are the plagues come upon the whole earth and ye shall remain in them: for God shall not deliver you, because ye have sinned against him. II Esdras 15:1-27, The King James Version Apocrypha, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. [/QUOTE]
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