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<blockquote data-quote="GakuseiDon" data-source="post: 57258044" data-attributes="member: 278217"><p>On the last page you wrote: "The "Jesus" of the synoptics is an invention of Mark based perhaps on a leader of a Q community in Galilee" and "we can asume that the Jesus of Mark was thought by many within the Q community to be a reference to the founder of their community."</p><p></p><p>It seems then that there is your historical Jesus. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/wave.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wave:" title="wave :wave:" data-shortname=":wave:" /> The only question for you is to show what was invented and what was not. And how you know. Still, we have dragged you half way there. I'll concentrate on Paul now, to drag you the rest of the way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Paul is a product of the time, writing in the style of that time. YOU expect Paul to write for us. But you have still to show that this expectation is warranted. I've given examples to you here and in my review to show that this expectation is not warranted, and it is anachronistic for you to expect this. </p><p> </p><p>Surely you would have to grant the principle that it is possible that people in ancient times wrote differently to what we would expect of us today? And once you grant the possibility, wouldn't the next step be to investigate it? Have you done this? Has Doherty?</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/JNGNM_Review2.html" target="_blank">Read my review</a> on the example of Tertullian's Ad nationes, and tell me why Tertullian never refers to "Jesus" or "Christ", why he 'hides' Christ's ministry on earth, why he talks about 'the name' being preached in the time of Augustus, then Tiberius and finally Nero, without even hinting about a Jesus being on earth in that time. Why did Tertullian write like that in your opinion, merle?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GakuseiDon, post: 57258044, member: 278217"] On the last page you wrote: "The "Jesus" of the synoptics is an invention of Mark based perhaps on a leader of a Q community in Galilee" and "we can asume that the Jesus of Mark was thought by many within the Q community to be a reference to the founder of their community." It seems then that there is your historical Jesus. :wave: The only question for you is to show what was invented and what was not. And how you know. Still, we have dragged you half way there. I'll concentrate on Paul now, to drag you the rest of the way. Paul is a product of the time, writing in the style of that time. YOU expect Paul to write for us. But you have still to show that this expectation is warranted. I've given examples to you here and in my review to show that this expectation is not warranted, and it is anachronistic for you to expect this. Surely you would have to grant the principle that it is possible that people in ancient times wrote differently to what we would expect of us today? And once you grant the possibility, wouldn't the next step be to investigate it? Have you done this? Has Doherty? [URL="http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/JNGNM_Review2.html"]Read my review[/URL] on the example of Tertullian's Ad nationes, and tell me why Tertullian never refers to "Jesus" or "Christ", why he 'hides' Christ's ministry on earth, why he talks about 'the name' being preached in the time of Augustus, then Tiberius and finally Nero, without even hinting about a Jesus being on earth in that time. Why did Tertullian write like that in your opinion, merle? [/QUOTE]
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