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<blockquote data-quote="GakuseiDon" data-source="post: 57255951" data-attributes="member: 278217"><p>Then, have you not perhaps found a candidate for the historical Jesus there, as leader of the Q community, the one who preached those things found in the Gospels, the miracle healer (whether metaphorical or not), the one who raised the hostility of the religious establishment of his time? Is this not at least a workable theory?</p><p></p><p></p><p>No. YOU would expect them to. But you have still to show that this expectation is warranted. I've given examples to you here and in my review to show that this expectation is not warranted, and it is anachronistic for you to expect this. </p><p></p><p>Surely you would have to grant the principle that it is possible that people in ancient times wrote differently to what we would expect of us today? And once you grant the possibility, wouldn't the next step be to investigate it? Have you done this? Has Doherty?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/JNGNM_Review2.html" target="_blank">Read my review</a> on the example of Tertullian's Ad nationes, and tell me why Tertullian never refers to "Jesus" or "Christ", why he 'hides' Christ's ministry on earth, why he talks about 'the name' being preached in the time of Augustus, then Tiberius and finally Nero, without even hinting about a Jesus being on earth in that time. Why did Tertullian write like that in your opinion, merle?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GakuseiDon, post: 57255951, member: 278217"] Then, have you not perhaps found a candidate for the historical Jesus there, as leader of the Q community, the one who preached those things found in the Gospels, the miracle healer (whether metaphorical or not), the one who raised the hostility of the religious establishment of his time? Is this not at least a workable theory? No. YOU would expect them to. But you have still to show that this expectation is warranted. I've given examples to you here and in my review to show that this expectation is not warranted, and it is anachronistic for you to expect this. Surely you would have to grant the principle that it is possible that people in ancient times wrote differently to what we would expect of us today? And once you grant the possibility, wouldn't the next step be to investigate it? Have you done this? Has Doherty? [URL="http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/JNGNM_Review2.html"]Read my review[/URL] on the example of Tertullian's Ad nationes, and tell me why Tertullian never refers to "Jesus" or "Christ", why he 'hides' Christ's ministry on earth, why he talks about 'the name' being preached in the time of Augustus, then Tiberius and finally Nero, without even hinting about a Jesus being on earth in that time. Why did Tertullian write like that in your opinion, merle? [/QUOTE]
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