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Dealing with Creationism in Astronomy - Magnetic Reconnection
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<blockquote data-quote="Michael" data-source="post: 64341612" data-attributes="member: 627"><p>Whine? He calls a *lab demonstrate fact* a "whine"? Really? Let's see Bridgman produce a plasma ball that creates tightly wound plasma spirals for *billions of years* after he turns off the power! In fact, I'd settle for 5 minutes. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Once it's 'started'? You mean by *moving charged particles*, AKA *current*?</p><p></p><p>Define "long gone" for me? In terms of nicely defined Birkeland currents, it's not going to happen. Once the current stops flowing the nicely defined Birkeland currents dissipate almost instantly. Turn of the power inside of an ordinary plasma ball and watch how fast the filaments disappear. </p><p></p><p>Energy that is radiating away, and going billion of light years away, won't explain those nicely formed jets around black holes or around galaxy *clusters today*. The mainstream simply *ignores* the *need* for electric fields and the *need* for electrical current in astronomy. They *insists* on trying to *dumb it down* to the B orientation of Maxwell's equations, and they utterly refuse to embrace the E orientation of those very same formulas! That's why they need "magnetic reconnection" rather than the simple circuit theories that Alfven used to describe electrical discharges in double layers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael, post: 64341612, member: 627"] Whine? He calls a *lab demonstrate fact* a "whine"? Really? Let's see Bridgman produce a plasma ball that creates tightly wound plasma spirals for *billions of years* after he turns off the power! In fact, I'd settle for 5 minutes. ;) Once it's 'started'? You mean by *moving charged particles*, AKA *current*? Define "long gone" for me? In terms of nicely defined Birkeland currents, it's not going to happen. Once the current stops flowing the nicely defined Birkeland currents dissipate almost instantly. Turn of the power inside of an ordinary plasma ball and watch how fast the filaments disappear. Energy that is radiating away, and going billion of light years away, won't explain those nicely formed jets around black holes or around galaxy *clusters today*. The mainstream simply *ignores* the *need* for electric fields and the *need* for electrical current in astronomy. They *insists* on trying to *dumb it down* to the B orientation of Maxwell's equations, and they utterly refuse to embrace the E orientation of those very same formulas! That's why they need "magnetic reconnection" rather than the simple circuit theories that Alfven used to describe electrical discharges in double layers. [/QUOTE]
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