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<blockquote data-quote="helmut" data-source="post: 77624832" data-attributes="member: 206559"><p>After that description, I decided not to look into the video before I answered to you.</p><p></p><p>I once read a (German) textbook on »evolutionary algorithms«, and one type of them was labelled deluge algorithms (<em>Sintflut-Algorithmen</em>, a clear allusion to Noah's flood). Such labels mean next to nothing beside a classification of algorithms.</p><p></p><p>What does "intelligence" mean? I once read an article which showed that there is no consensus about that. It ended with a quote that intelligence is the feature measured by IQ tests <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Sometimes an algorithm designed to solve one type of problems can be used for a quite different type of problems. Depending on the definition of intelligence, you may say that this shows there is intelligence in this algorithm - it stems, of course, from the creator of that algorithm (and all this has nothing to do with what is called AI).</p><p></p><p>AFAIK, we already got at that point. In Chip design, there are modules which involve many transistors, one example would be the division of two floating-point numbers (say, with a mantissa of 64 bits). You may design a chip by analyzing the mathematical structure of the problem, and put this into a grid pattern, but this is far from optimal. Such modules are know designed and optimized by computer programs, and no human understand how the result works.</p><p></p><p>It is impossible to test every combination of bits (in my example: 128 bit input, that is 2¹²⁸ or about 3.4028*10³⁸ possibilities), so we can <em>never</em> be sure that there is no exceptional situation that will end in a wrong result (there have been processor bugs with some wrong results in rare circumstances, though I'm not sure whether any such bug was due to computer optimization and not by an human error in design or implementation of design). We simply have to trust that the chip divides correctly, same with other very complex operations.</p><p></p><p>So do you check every division by using two different computer chips from two producers that do not share their microcode to one another (or do you use old chips or software that does not make divisions in »one step«, but rather use a method humans can understand)?</p><p></p><p>Or do you just trust your computer?</p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">EDIT: many typos</span></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helmut, post: 77624832, member: 206559"] After that description, I decided not to look into the video before I answered to you. I once read a (German) textbook on »evolutionary algorithms«, and one type of them was labelled deluge algorithms ([I]Sintflut-Algorithmen[/I], a clear allusion to Noah's flood). Such labels mean next to nothing beside a classification of algorithms. What does "intelligence" mean? I once read an article which showed that there is no consensus about that. It ended with a quote that intelligence is the feature measured by IQ tests ;) Sometimes an algorithm designed to solve one type of problems can be used for a quite different type of problems. Depending on the definition of intelligence, you may say that this shows there is intelligence in this algorithm - it stems, of course, from the creator of that algorithm (and all this has nothing to do with what is called AI). AFAIK, we already got at that point. In Chip design, there are modules which involve many transistors, one example would be the division of two floating-point numbers (say, with a mantissa of 64 bits). You may design a chip by analyzing the mathematical structure of the problem, and put this into a grid pattern, but this is far from optimal. Such modules are know designed and optimized by computer programs, and no human understand how the result works. It is impossible to test every combination of bits (in my example: 128 bit input, that is 2¹²⁸ or about 3.4028*10³⁸ possibilities), so we can [I]never[/I] be sure that there is no exceptional situation that will end in a wrong result (there have been processor bugs with some wrong results in rare circumstances, though I'm not sure whether any such bug was due to computer optimization and not by an human error in design or implementation of design). We simply have to trust that the chip divides correctly, same with other very complex operations. So do you check every division by using two different computer chips from two producers that do not share their microcode to one another (or do you use old chips or software that does not make divisions in »one step«, but rather use a method humans can understand)? Or do you just trust your computer? [I][SIZE=1]EDIT: many typos[/SIZE][/I] [/QUOTE]
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