‘Men want variety’: Why Dennis Prager’s defense of pornography is profoundly dangerous...

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Dennis Prager, a conservative author and talk radio host, is trending on social media for sharing what many see as an overly simplistic and undeniably problematic view of pornography.

“Men want variety,” Prager said during a recent round-table discussion hosted by The Daily Wire’s Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist and author. Pornography, he went on to say, is “not awful,” so long as it’s used as a “substitute for adultery.”

The problems in that statement alone are plentiful — but he continued.

Prager, a practicing Jew, told Peterson and his fellow panelists that looking at a woman lustfully is “not a sin in Judaism” — a diversion from the Christian belief taught by Jesus, who said, “Anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:28, NLT).

“There’s only one way to commit adultery in Judaism, and it’s with a different organ,” he explained, going on to say that, when women call into his radio program to ask about their husbands’ pornography use, he asks if their consumption of the explicit content is impacting their sexual relationships.

“If adultery is a substitute for one’s wife, it’s awful,” he said. “If it’s a substitute for adultery, it’s not awful.”

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P o r n o g r a p h y (why is that word automaticlly censored???) can be just as addictive as cocaine; and if indulged in freely and often enough, will cause no end of psycho-sexual problems in the addict's personal life. The problem has become a trillion times worse since the advent of the internet. Now, instead of sneaking down to an all-night bookstore and buying smut magazines that are carried home in a paper bag, the addict simply logs on to the computer and has an endless river of filth flowing directly into the brain.
 
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Pornography use and addiction are sources of distress in modern marriages and a significant reason for higher divorce rates over the past 20 years. The accessibility of porn on the internet, as well as a loss of spirituality and the meaning of sex and marriage, has given rise to the widespread use of porn.

This reality is the reason for a new online discussion and prayer platform called SOS Porn Deliverance, which was recently launched under the patronage of the Italian computer programmer Blessed Carlos Acutis.

The platform, available in English since March 19, was originally launched in 2020 in French by the online evangelization association Lights in the Dark, founded in 2015.

The association has since developed several thematic platforms to announce the Gospel to the peripheries of the Church, including the themes of life after death, the Holy Shroud of Turin, and the meaning of Christmas and Valentine’s Day. “E-missionaries” are present on each platform to answer live questions from internet users.

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Does anyone else find Prager and his PragerU weird? Like the promos/ads they run on TV and stuff strike me as creepy cause it just sounds like brainwashing. And you guys know me, I'm ultra conservative, but this is a bad look for us.
 
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Dennis Prager insinuated that the doctrine of Christ is foreign to the doctrine of Moses and the Prophets. Such a notion not only denigrates the Lord as a misguided innovator but also impugns Moses and the Prophets by diminishing their sublime teaching.

 
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Anyone who has been involved in pastoral ministry during the last decade will be acutely aware that internet pornography is one of the great scourges of contemporary society. And one does not need to be religious to believe that. In her recent book, The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, Louise Perry includes a chapter summarizing pornography's effects on relationships, sexuality, and physical health. She also points out the obvious connections to sex trafficking and exploitation. And yet voices that claim to be conservative still make crass and ill-informed comments on the topic.

 
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Does anyone else find Prager and his PragerU weird? Like the promos/ads they run on TV and stuff strike me as creepy cause it just sounds like brainwashing. And you guys know me, I'm ultra conservative, but this is a bad look for us.
He always falls flat for me. Granted, in this case I understood where he was coming from, but he expressed his points rather badly. He did a follow-up in-person conversation with Matt Fradd, which I only skimmed for about 30 seconds. Fradd was overly aggressive and it was just a weird conversation, but it did give Prager a chance to elaborate. (link)
 
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Porn is from the enemy of the Lord Who wants love for couples.
Lust is the nasty opposite and from what I do recall from many years ago debating porn.
[was in here or another forum...? Sheesh how time flies....
Anyway - one guy a former porn addict said it destroyed his marriage because...
HE was unable to perform the loving act with his wife.

As he was bringing others to the marriage bed and it was emotional/mental cheating.

NOTE: he obviously didn't love his wife enough to only wish to gaze upon her.
 
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It makes no sense and it has broken all of the links in this thread. :doh:

The word is automatically replaced by the non-word "contentography." ^_^
It’s CF. It’s a problem that needs to be fixed. The word: P/graphy is automatically banned. Even if it the topic is something to help overcome it, etc.
 
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It’s CF. It’s a problem that needs to be fixed. The word: P/graphy is automatically banned. Even if it the topic is something to help overcome it, etc.
inappropriate content is how it changed for me.
 
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P o r n o g r a p h y (why is that word automaticlly censored???) can be just as addictive as cocaine; and if indulged in freely and often enough, will cause no end of psycho-sexual problems in the addict's personal life. The problem has become a trillion times worse since the advent of the internet. Now, instead of sneaking down to an all-night bookstore and buying smut magazines that are carried home in a paper bag, the addict simply logs on to the computer and has an endless river of filth flowing directly into the brain.
And every foul type of p is available.
Corrupting minds as well that could have mistakenly seen it at first.
 
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I just watched the YouTube video, "Pints With Aquinas," hosted by Matt Fradd.

He had Dennis Prager on to speak about this very subject. Fradd pointed out on
what Dennis Prager had said with Dr Jordan Peterson, about viewing porn,
and wanted to know what Dennis Prager actually meant.

It turns out, Dennis Prager first had a misunderstanding of what the word, "lust,"
actually meant from the Christian perspective. Matt Fradd did a good job explaining it, and
understanding the context in what Jesus meant when he said that a man who looks at
a woman lustfully, has already committed adultery with her.

At first, Prager disagree with such a statement, which he took literally. However, he seemed
to be coming around when provided the true meaning of the word, "lust" As Jesus taught.
Jesus always went after what was in the heart of a person and not the outward appearance
that matters.

In the debate, Dennis also pointed out that he didn't believe masturbation was immoral.
He said, it was a natural as having to eat, drink or urinate. As Matt Fradd said, " you have
to eat, drink and even urinate in order to stay alive, but you don't have to touch."
Prager agreed. The two also came to an agreement, that both Jews and Catholics have an
understanding that there are levels of sin, i.e. for Catholics, venial and mortal are distinctions.

In the end of the debate, it seemed that Dennis Prager's eyes were opened a little more,
as to what Catholic Christians actually believe.

I saw this happened when he was on the panel on Dr Peterson's, show "Exodus."

I like Dennis Prayer for the most part, and pray for him.
 
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Does anyone else find Prager and his PragerU weird? Like the promos/ads they run on TV and stuff strike me as creepy cause it just sounds like brainwashing. And you guys know me, I'm ultra conservative, but this is a bad look for us.
I used to like Dennis Prager and Prager U but in the last year or more Dennis Prager has gotten too weird for me. I won't get into it here, but several conservative personalities have gotten too weird for me. I've quit watching/listening. And I'm still conservative and prolife, but I just can't get into some of the tin foil hattery stuff.
And of course, his view of contenography goes against what Jesus said.
 
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I watched Dennis Prager's "Fireside Chat," yesterday.

He explained what was meant when he spoke on Jordan Peterson's panel covering the book
of Exodus.

He also emphatically stated that he opposes pornography and how social media sites took
a 20 second statement he made out of context and condemned his 40 years of service to
Judaism and Christianity. In fact, he has been a great supporter of Christianity. He's not the
enemy as some are trying to portray him as in here.
 
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It makes no sense and it has broken all of the links in this thread. :doh:

The word is automatically replaced by the non-word "contentography." ^_^
I hate that word. It should be banned and replaced with ‘word salad’.
 
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