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  1. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    No, I won't, because I'm a woman. Which has a lot to do with why converting to Orthodoxy (or Catholicism) is out of the question.
  2. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    It goes beyond that. The priest ministers on behalf of the bishop, as the bishop's representative. The ministry of the priest does not stand on its own, it only stands as it is authorised by the bishop. I am an Anglican priest.
  3. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    But a priest (who is not a bishop) is not a bishop. They are not interchangeable. And as I said, what you are articulating does not match the way the Orthodox would express this. (I also have a seminary education. :cool:).
  4. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    And yet when I look at Orthodox sources, they say that in fact, you don't have the same understanding. So, I think it is not so straightforward.
  5. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    But that source is pointing out that it is, in Orthodox understanding, the bishop who is the living icon of Christ; not the priest. The Orthodox would argue that the priest stands in persona ecclesiae, not in persona Christi.
  6. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    Orthodox sources (such as this one: What are the Differences Between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism? ) would beg to differ. This line is interesting: The Latins hold that the presbyter acts "in the person of Christ" when, in fact, he does no more than represent the bishop who is "the living...
  7. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    Is it? My admittedly relatively inexpert understanding of the Orthodox position is that they would reject, or at least wish to correct, a Catholic sacramentology.
  8. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    From the outside, it's not clear to me that I should take seriously a Catholic position which says, "only pay attention to the Catholics whose opinions I prefer." Surely, if we are to take Catholicism seriously, we need to take the breadth and depth of it seriously?
  9. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    I am not sure that personalism is entirely out of place in Christian thought. Pope John Paul II is noted for his personalism.
  10. Paidiske

    It is pointless for Lutherans to claim episcopal succession (Бессмысленно лютеранам заявлять о епископском преемстве)

    This was not directed to me, but I hope a reply from me will not be unwelcome. I suspect there is something of a language barrier here, because some of the nuances of what is said I am not sure about, and I wonder if it is because the meaning is different in the original language. But perhaps...
  11. Paidiske

    Lying on the forum

    I would, I think, say something similar about not having lied on a forum. I wonder whether it's partly because on a forum we can choose our interaction. Don't like a thread? Don't post. Don't like the replies you get? Click away. Don't want to share some unpalatable truth? Decline to...
  12. Paidiske

    What Are Anglicans Required to Believe for Church Membership?

    Welcome to the (slightly odd, but good-hearted) family. :)
  13. Paidiske

    Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health

    Because it acknowledges that belief formation is complex and doesn't boil down to any one source of influence. And certainly not one, one-size-fits-all, pathway from "negative" experiences to abuse. Except that's not what it says. It says that those things have some influence, but not always...
  14. Paidiske

    Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health

    I don't read it that way. The model you've been arguing for in this thread seems very simplistic to me. And very dismissive of the agency of those who abuse. No; I am saying that belief formation is far more complex than just negative experiences -> stress/distress -> cognitive compromise ->...
  15. Paidiske

    women as priests

    If God calls women to be priests, then yes, ordaining those women makes the church better; in that it is faithfully obedient to God. And if we're talking sheer pragmatics, the rates of abuse by women clergy are much lower than the rates amongst the men, and, I would argue, the presence of...
  16. Paidiske

    Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health

    But what it does not do, is boil it all down to a simplistic model where "negative" experiences give rise to overwhelming distress, aggression, cognitive impairment, and lead to people being "out of control" and abusing. It acknowledges a far more complex reality than that, and does not posit...
  17. Paidiske

    women as priests

    I don't see how the contemporary use of the word priest for the NT office of elder is "at the expense of Scripture." I disagree. It doesn't have to be exactly equivalent to be close enough to be a legitimate use of the term. We each determine such things within our own ecclesial communities...
  18. Paidiske

    Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health

    My memory is that the report mentioned about 50% of parents using corporal punishment, but I'm not going back to check just now. If you find a quote saying different, pull it out. Don't just claim it, find the evidence. Your earlier comment, to which I was responding, was about "negative"...
  19. Paidiske

    Kid's Corporal Punishment - a Risk to Mental Health

    But the rate is very similar to what was found in Georgia. So it's not really a very different social landscape. I think there's no one answer to that. It would be different for every person. But he's not talking about the beliefs which drive abuse. Of course it is. Behaviour that's...