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Luke and Matthew record to completely separate speeches given to different Audiences at different times. This is where people on both sides stumble.

In a sense Preterists agree with the Pre-Tribers Camp. That Jesus could Return on the Clouds without anyone noticing.

"The Thess material should also first be understood about the same times, since it is spoken of as present" THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PAUL WROTE 2 THESSALONIANS TO DEBUNK

Their two distinct Discourses with two distinct messages. That's what people overlook. There is no way to argue the Abomination of Desolation happened in 70 A.D., because it's suppsoed to be an unmistakable event, and the terms has a very prescice meaning in jewish thought. it can't apply to...

Matthew 24 is foretelling the Church being hated of all Nations (Gentiles) for Jesus's namesake. Matthew 24 has no Audience, it's a private meeting with the 12. Luke 21 is the Discourse he preached Publicly. That was is mainly about 70 A.D., but it jumps forward after "until the Times of the...

The End of the Old Testament age was John The Baptist. "The law and the Prophets were until John". Verses 4-8 are the Non signs, their the only thing all 3 accounts of the Discourse have in common. They characterize the Entire Church Age. Matthew 24 only foretells Gentile persecution, while...

The Thousand years can't begin until Jesus is reigning on Earth with the Resurrected Saints. Amilenialims requires allegorizeing the Resurrection.

The First Resurrection doesn't happen all at once, it began with Jesus and many other OT Saints in 30 A.D.

No, Peter cited part of Joel out of context at Pentacost, like Matthew cites many OT verses out of Context to apply them to Jesus. The Church Age began at Pentacost, but the grander context of Joel is clearly about the end of The Church Age.

The debate about the Rapture if when not if. Either way the point if a correlation between the 6th and 7th Trumpets. Allot fo Post-Tribbers consider the Seventh Trump view compatible with theirs because they have the chronology of the Judgments all garbled.

Chiefly that the Trumpet sounded at the start of Joel 1 is the Sixth Trumpet of Revelation, the Second Woe. And that the Trumpet in Verse 15 is the Seventh Trumpet. Which lends supprot to the Seventh Trumpet view of The Rapture. I did a Google search on the subject, and it seems no one else...

I thought Preterism was dependent on viewing Babylon as Rome? The Beast burning Babylon refers to Nero burning Rome. The idea that Jerusalem is Babylon, whether from a Preterist or Futurist perspective is silly. Jerusalem is clearly distinct form Babylonin Revelation 11, Jeruslame is under...

So if Revelation is about 70 A.D. how come it doesn't mention the Temple and Jerusalem being destroyed, or the Jews being carried away captive? All things addressed in Luke 21.

The King, priest and Prophet things makes sens,e thanks, I should've thought of that. I still see the Idol Shepard as Judas however "who leaveth the flock" is intresting to compare to how Yeshua defined him as the only Dsiclpe who is lost, and says his being lost fulfills scripture.

Also I believe the being "Born again" of John 3 speaks of the Resurrection not when your saved. Contrary to popular usage. In I Samuel Saul's salvation is defined as being given New Heart.

Ezekiel 34 talks about False Shepherds and then a True Shepherd.

No, The Antichrist will speak Blasphemous things against the God of Israel.

If your denying that Daniel 4 tell us Nebuchadnezer is a Saved individual, that's Blasphemous to me. That's a Historical chapter, any typological significance it has is secondary. The Beast and Satan are distinct personages. There is no evidence Satan ever indwells in him. Satan simply gives...

Read Revelation 17, that tells us who wages War on Babylon. Being Given a New heart is an idium of being Saved, read Daniel 4. All of the fouding Kings of the first 3 are saved and will be in the Millennium.

Salvation is not connected to ethnicity. But neither the Church or Israel's covenant is synonymous with Salvation, there will be Saved who are apart of neither and some who are heirs to both. Romans 11 makes clear Israel's blindness is temporary.