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The gnostics were taught through Paul and John. I sometimes wonder if the church believes the Johannines were even saved. They followed the teachings of John. Paulines followed Paul. Neither ever used the OT or other books for decades. Guess they were heretics and lost their souls.

You'll know them by their fruits. Catholics and Protestant, Jews and Muslims, all are judges, liars and murderers. I'll follow the spiritual path that doesn't teach such and condemns it. Even if alone in the flesh. My God doesn't teach such things. My faith is sound in my mind.

"And the archons took him and placed him in paradise. And they said to him, 'Eat, that is at leisure,' for their luxury is bitter and their beauty is depraved. And their luxury is deception and their trees are godlessness and their fruit is deadly poison and their promise is death. And the tree...

They were never born again until Jesus went to Hades where they slept. They died and were dead. Just as Jesus said they did. He went to Hades when he gave up his spirit, then they were saved, and arose from the graves and appeared in the Holy City. (Matthew). (the resurrection of the dead) No...

Jesus didn't know what the Father knew. If he did, he wouldn't have needed his faith. The Holy Spirit within him revealed his fate as she heard. Christ had the Holy Spirit within him, who revealed what the Father wanted him to say: John: Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will...

I quoted the words of scripture from the Gospel of Thomas just as they appeared. I added nothing.

The books of knowledge (not in the Canon) is the words Jesus told the Disciples when he returned to them after he arose. It is the Secret books (like Secret James and Secret John), apocryphons not accept by the catholic ideology. Jesus explains much without parables to his elect. The words are...

Did God have to kill his son to prove love? What is this "like I do" you keep saying?

I'm lost on the "as I do" part. You must be confusing me with another debater. Given your moniker, I never really expected you to agree with me. I don't try to get people to agree with me. I'm fine. I present another perspective that others (than yourself) might seek out and find. Church...

You are not seeing the spiritual message of hate and love. Mammon and God. Hate the one love the other. Hate the flesh, love the spirit. Our mothers and fathers are loved as we love our neighbors (2nd commandment). Spirit over flesh. Jesus took his spiritual mother (the Holy Spirit) over his...

Christ brought the word of God. The Holy Spirit reveals the word of God. I follow the Word of God, heard by flesh through flesh and revealed Spirit through Spirit. The OT didn't have this, as the Gospel plainly dictates.

Then find the Fathers love and grace. And you'll have a reason to fear anything. 1 John: 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 19 We love him, because he first loved us.

I am sorry if you don't detect love. I have so many other things I can be doing, yet am here debating. I didn't say you were ignorant. I said ignorance is the force against spiritual knowledge. It's not some little devil sitting on our shoulders telling us to lie, etc. It desires us to be like...

Here's 2. Do you understand them? Hint: they're spiritual (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of...

I get it. You're an Anti-Pauline Catholic. Some Messianic's are Anti-Pauline. John: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. John: Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into...

ROTFL. Yet no scripture to back up your words. You quote words that can be changed, added to or taken away. I follow the Spirit which is what Christ said to do. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely...

7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:) 9 And when James...

It's the gospel your (church) fathers follow. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from...

Shadows is a good description. It is the age of the gray. Jesus was the light. Who would return to gray and leave the light? The same spirit that caused the gray can influence the light if we go backward. Gnosis tells us that it was Christ who caused Adam and Eve to eat. Was it the Tree of...

If God the Father made man, there would never had been a need for the Son or the Holy Spirit. I don't cut the Father short of anything.